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In Their Words: Industry Experts on Why Hunting Is In Decline

In the December 2008/January 2009 issue, Bob Marshall writes an insightful and revealing look at the reasons for hunting’s decline (Why Johnny Won’t Hunt). To get more perspective, we posed two straightforward questions to various leaders in the U.S. hunting community.

1)    Why does hunting recruitment continue to decline?
2)    If this trend is not reversed, what will hunting in America look like in 50 years?

You can read their responses by clicking the link below.

Why do you think hunting is declining?

George Cooper, President and Chief Executive Officer
Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership

Hunting is dying a death of a thousand cuts. Our increasing population means declining habitat for wildlife, as suburban sprawl and expanding production agriculture claim more of the lands that used to be hunting grounds. Other pervasive forces, like booming oil and gas development on public lands in the Intermountain West, now dot landscapes that used to be dotted by blaze orange. And the dawn of the digital generation comes with a downside: more kids than ever before prefer recreating on carpet than on dirt.

The long-term implications of these trends are downright scary. Declines in hunter numbers compound themselves, as fewer mentors lead to fewer young hunters. This means fewer people practicing our craft. It means fewer people connected to the land in the ways that hunters are, which could signify bad times ahead for species conservation.  We need to be ever-mindful that the roots of conservation in this country were planted by sportsmen such as Marsh, Grinnell, Audubon and Roosevelt, just to name a few.

If the hunting population continues to decline we will become a people increasingly out of touch with our lands. And when we lose touch with our lands, we lose not only the sense of how they function, but the sense of why they need to function in those ways.

A people without this sense is a people with no real sense at all.

Doug Painter
President, National Shooting Sports Foundation

Urbanization, not a loss of interest, has been the key factor impacting hunter participation in recent decades. Nationally, over the past 20 years, hunting license sales have declined by some eight percent.

This decrease, however, has varied considerably from state to state. Not surprisingly, the sharpest declines have occurred in those states that have experienced the most urban growth. Conversely, a third of the states have seen license sales increases over the past two decades.

What’s the outlook down the road? While it is difficult to overcome the negative impact of continuing development, especially in our most populous states, hunter recruitment and retention efforts of state wildlife agencies and many organizations in the hunting community are having positive results. While there isn’t room here to describe all the efforts that are making a difference, a great example can be seen in the number of new young hunters coming in as a result of the “mentor license” created by the Families Afield program now active in 29 states.

As we look to the future of hunting we must keep in mind that there is no “them,” only “us.” So, the next time you plan to head out, be sure to ask a newcomer to “Step Outside.”

Nick Wiley
Director, Division of Hunting and Game Management
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

Today's youth have many more recreational opportunities that are more convenient, more available, less expensive, and more culturally acceptable than hunting. Small game hunting has almost disappeared as the preferred entry level hunting activity. Urban/suburban communities have increased and rural communities have declined - resulting in less cultural/family connection to hunting and a widespread breakdown in hunting traditions. Reduced access to hunting land through changing land use, restrictions, liability issues, and leasing has compounded the difficulty associated with hunter recruitment.

In 50 years, it will become more expensive to hunt, particularly on private land. The typical hunter will likely come from a higher socio-economic status. Hunting on public lands will be more restricted with regard to seasons and quotas. Types of hunting that require large acreage or have negative impacts on neighboring lands or wildlife habitat will likely be heavily restricted or phased out.

There is hope to maintain a good capacity for hunting in the future, but hunters need to take action now. It will be important for hunters to get involved in growth management planning, push for strong public land acquisition programs, and support incentives for private landowners including conservation easements, tax breaks, and cost share programs that will maintain quality wildlife habitat and hunting opportunities.

Jim Posewitz
Executive Director, Orion The Hunters' Institute

The most ignored reasons for a decline in hunting recruitment are those endemic to the hunting community itself. We have been sacrificing the hunt for a glut of gear, a high-tech chase, catered killing for pay, and the de facto domestication of wildlife.  In the process we have been choking the joy and truth out of a primal association with nature that holds a powerful appeal for a broad spectrum of people. We then pursued recruitment by lowering the entry-bar, when hunting’s noble purpose, and society’s expectation, demanded that we raise it.

If we continue to compromise the democracy and substance of American hunting, we will come to resemble places like England.  There, six large mammals went extinct and hunting became reviled as a residual of a hated aristocracy. Hunting, as a cultural amenity available to everyone, gave birth to the American Conservation ethic. Should we loose that ethic - the future could replace us with animal damage control agents – and they might call them hunters.

Mike Checkett, Media Relations Biologist
Ducks Unlimited

Hunter numbers continue to decline for several reasons. Among the most significant are; rapidly changing population centers, loss of hunting land to urbanization, and more competing demands for time. In short, it comes down to habitat and time. We don’t have as much habitat or time to hunt these days. Conservation programs like CRP and WRP are being cut back leaving less land available for hunting. Parents are working longer hours and kids have more activity choices. Ultimately, today’s youth have little contact with the outdoors and even less exposure to hunting. There are two keys to getting future generations to hunt. First we must provide them a place to hunt. Secondly we must foster participation among today’s youth. Research indicates that if an individual has not been introduced to hunting by the age of 20, there is a very low likelihood of hunting participation as an adult. Hunters are the most willing to give their own dollar for wildlife conservation. If we do not engage today’s youth in our hunting heritage and traditions, the future of both hunting and conservation looks grim.

Jeffrey Reh
Vice President and General Counsel
Beretta U.S.A. Corporation

The largest threat to hunting comes from a separation of the population from rural traditions.  As urban areas increase in size and population, a growing number of people lose access to hunting areas and those who do hunt
(because they live in rural areas or make the effort to find hunting opportunities) have fewer places in which to enjoy their sport. Because the hunting tradition is often passed down through generations or is shared with friends, as more people become separated from hunting, fewer people are available to share the sport.

This trend will continue unless hunting access is increased, by preserving hunting areas, increasing information about where to hunt and the excitement of hunting, and by reducing barriers to hunting such as onerous and unnecessary licensing requirements.  If hunting remains significantly more difficult to enjoy than other recreational pursuits, separation of the population from hunting will continue.

Mark Holsten, Commissioner
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources

On a national level, factors affecting hunter recruitment include some of the usual suspects: demographic shifts, habitat changes, natural resource degradation, high barriers for those new to the sport, and a lack of mentoring programs for youth.

However, while other states have seen a decline in hunter numbers, Minnesota has had a seven percent increase since 1996. We believe this reflects the foresight of our citizens, lawmakers and DNR leaders. Together, they have worked to preserve habitat, enhance game populations, maintain millions of acres of public hunting land, and reduce barriers to participation. Minnesota’s commitment to hunting has even been affirmed by a state constitutional amendment that forever recognizes and preserves the state’s hunting tradition. Our hunting recruitment and retention approach will continue to focus on increasing access to quality hunting, creating new hunting opportunities, expanding mentoring programs and taking other actions that move us toward higher hunter participation.

One only needs to look at England and Europe to see what the future of hunting in the United States might look like in 50 years. Without a strong effort by committed agencies, organizations and individuals, hunting will likely become much more of a privatized activity available only to the wealthy. With the loss of the average hunter, we will see greatly reduced funding for wildlife and conservation projects. We will lose our loudest voices for conservation advocacy. The North American Conservation Model that has hunters at its foundation, which has worked so effectively for decades, will collapse.
But we believe that this trend can be slowed or reversed if states partner with non-governmental organizations, conservation groups and individuals to maintain support for and availability of hunting opportunities. Governments must make investments in the science, culture and tradition of hunting to insure that this great activity remains an option for future generations. We must maintain strong scientific wildlife management and the principle of wildlife as a public trust resource – not as an individual property right.  Agencies must continue to provide open and equitable access to hunting areas and opportunities and make sure that programs are in place to allow new hunters to easily learn about and participate in those opportunities.

Matt Frank
Secretary, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources

Wisconsin is a great place to hunt, and the hunting tradition remains strong here. We’re working to keep it that way:

A commitment to providing a place to hunt is critical. Hunters who have no place to hunt, don’t. Wisconsin hunters have access to seven million acres of public land and managed forest private land for hunting. Under Gov. Jim Doyle’s leadership, we recently renewed the Stewardship Fund, which will provide $86 million per year for 10 years for public acquisition of recreational land.  So far the Stewardship Fund has provided a half-million acres of recreational land, almost all of it open to hunting.

It takes a hunter to make a hunter.  Commitments to mentoring and outreach to our nation’s increasingly diverse population are musts.  In Wisconsin, we designed the Learn to Hunt Program to introduce people to their hunting heritage.  We work with local clubs and on our state properties to sponsor youth hunts for deer, turkey and other species to spark interest and build skills.  Becoming and Outdoorswoman (BOW) was born here. We’re very actively participating in “Take Me Fishing.” And to assure hunters are as diverse as our population, we’re reaching out to new constituencies like Hmong. 

To preserve our heritage and manage wildlife populations, we must grow a new nature-connected generation of hunter conservationists, ready to take our places as stewards of our precious natural resources. We are working with families to make it easy to get kids into traditional outdoor pursuits and quality family time.  Once the connection to nature is made, it lasts a lifetime.

Wisconsin is committed to hunting and its future for all the reasons it’s important – heritage, wildlife management, and involving people in conservation. It’s going to take all of us to keep it strong.

Wes Seegars
Chairman, North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission

The answer to your question is attributable to many factors.  I believe the urbanization of virtually every state and the sprawl that has consumed farmland, (destroying habitat and traditional hunting opportunities) is one of two leading factors. The other is simple, competition. Our culture is evolving as fast as our technology and it is coming at the expense of hunting, fishing, and what the fifty-and-over crowd call tradition. Computer games, ipods and an endless list of equipment that is growing weekly has captured the full attention of this and the previous generation’s effortless enjoyment. It is not only technology, we are told constantly guns are weapons of destruction and gun owners are constantly portrayed with negative connotations. Correct society, whatever that is, believes if you own a gun you are capable of doing great harm. No longer is a child excited when he or she turns ten and gets his or her first shotgun for Christmas. Today, we are not sure if we are even supposed to have Christmas. How did this happen? No great philosophical or insightful answer, it just did. It is, however, another lesson to the silent majority of our great country to wake up before the traditions that made our country great are gone.

There will be hunting fifty years from now. Private and public hunting preserves along the Atlantic coast with very limited public lands will be able to accommodate the hunters that are left. Along the Pacific coast there will be a few private preserves but no public lands available. From the Mississippi to the Rockies there will continue to be the greatest opportunity for hunters. Both public and private land will be available for the sportsmen and women of our country because it will be the only place left our "society" has not consumed in every imaginable way.

Mike Hayden
Secretary, Kansas Department of Wildlife & Parks

Hunting has been a focal point of my life for 54 years and will continue to be, until I die. Hunters are vanishing because hunting is not relevant to most people’s lives!  As a white male whose parents are still living and have never been divorced I am among a cohort that represents only 1% of the world’s population. This is relevant, because as hard has we might try to diversify, hunting is still a white male dominated avocation passed on through, mostly rural, family traditions. The decline in hunters reflects the decline in rural populations. It also reflects the change in family structure that has occurred over the last half century. Until we make hunting relevant to a diverse and ever changing populace our numbers will continue to decline.

Barnett Lawley
Commissioner, Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources

I believe part of the reason for a decline in hunter recruitment is the difficulty in hunter education certification. We need a way for hunter education certification to be more convenient.
The mentor license passed by the Alabama Legislature has helped by allowing a person who hasn’t had hunter-ed to hunt under the supervision of a licensed adult.

But we are competing with so many other activities that kids have available these days. We need to promote outdoors activities as vigorously as they promote soccer, football, and baseball. We can’t just take for granted that kids are interested in hunting any more. We must promote the enjoyment aspect and the necessity of hunting in wildlife management.

I think hunting in our country in 50 years will be highly commercialized and privatized. I think public lands are the key to hunting in the future. If we don’t maintain our revenue through our hunter base, we won’t have the funds to maintain public hunting lands and our treasured natural resources.

John Hoskins
Director, Missouri Department of Conservation

In Missouri, hunting is steeped in our state’s traditions. Over one-half million hunters enjoy their sport each year. We have not seen dramatic declines in deer and turkey hunting participation and the numbers of hunters have been relatively stable for two decades.  We’ve also learned that many people develop their outdoor interests because someone else shares the outdoors with them.

Because we do anticipate a decline in participation, the Department of Conservation is exploring ways to engage more citizens into a lifetime love of hunting and to help them establish a connection with the outdoors.  These methods include an apprentice permit for adults, youth-only seasons, education and publications for young people and adults, and easy to find information about where to go and what to do on Web pages, including videos on YouTube.  Statewide, nearly one million acres of conservation areas will continue to offer hunting opportunities well into the future.

Rich Landers
Outdoor columnist
The Spokane Spokesman-Review

A hunter needs three things to keep a foot in the sport:  Money, access, and time.

Money isn’t a major issue. Determined sportsmen will get a second job and cancel cable TV service to make hunts happen. With money, you can buy a lease, book a guide, or get to wherever you need to go for hunting opportunities. Time, however, is something that seems to be slipping away from all Americans. Even landowners who live on wildlife gold mines rarely get away from hectic schedules and distractions to enjoy their wealth of hunting access.

Having less competition isn’t all bad for those of us who relish an uninterrupted stalk on opening day. But if the public continues to be more detached from the woods, the support for land and wildlife conservation will erode, and soon there won’t be enough voices to say “What the hell?” when wetlands are drained. It’s just a matter of time.

Johnny Morris, President
Bass Pro Shops

Hunting and fishing have been a very big part of my life for as long as I can remember.  My Dad introduced me to the outdoors by sharing with me his love for nature that he acquired like so many others, through hunting and fishing.  I feel very blessed to have made my living and spent my life involved in the outdoor sports industry.

I would like to underscore some of the positive trends that don’t always get reported.  There are far more hunters in this country than the 12. 5 million reported in the 2006 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting and Wildlife Recreation. That total doesn’t include hunters younger than 16 years old. Nor does it take into account those people who don’t buy a hunting license every year. Rob Southwick, a noted economist in this industry, has examined the survey in detail and found that for every person who hunted in 2005, there was another 54 percent who hunted in the five years prior. While that 54 percent may not have hunted in 2005, the year the survey was conducted, they are still hunters. When you add up those numbers, you’ll find there were 20.84 million people who hunted at least once between 2000 and 2005. If you believe that once a hunter, always a hunter, this will come as good news: a total of 42 million people have hunted in the United States.

There are, however, several key factors that explain why a smaller percentage of the American public hunts today.  Probably the biggest reason experts cite for a decline in the percentage of hunters is urbanization.  A rural upbringing in a family of hunters is the biggest factor in creating a hunter.  Today’s society, however, is dominated by people living in cities and suburbs with little knowledge about hunting.  Add to that urban sprawl and the problem worsens as development converts areas once open to hunting.  However, these issues have not gone unnoticed.  There’s an army of people out there, volunteers and professionals, who are working hard to ensure we’ll be sharing our hunting traditions for many years to come.

One of the best examples of a bright future for hunting is right here in my home state of Missouri.  Our Director of Conservation, John Hoskins, and his staff lead the nation in the recruitment of young people into the sport.  For every 100 hunters who lose interest, 116 new hunters take their place.  Missouri has opened the door to young hunters through special hunts for youth.  While 19 states have laws that prevent parents from deciding when their sons and daughters are mature enough to try hunting, Missouri’s regulations work to encourage families to hunt together!

Other states are following this success and removing barriers to youth and adult novice hunters.  Leaders like John Hoskins, and Rob Keck at the National Wild Turkey Federation, and groups such as the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance are working with sportsmen, elected officials and wildlife agency personnel to lift restrictions that prevent young people and adults from learning to hunt. The Families Afield founding partners, with help from the NRA, have seen great results. To date, 25 states have passed some type of pro-recruitment legislation. Data from those states who have tracked license sales show very positive trends.

Hopefully it will become more apparent to all Americans that hunters are the ones who have shouldered the costs for virtually all wildlife management efforts.  Hunters support conservation for the benefit of all citizens through their license fees and specially earmarked taxes from the sale of firearms and making ammunition.

Hunting equipment sales have been the fastest growing merchandise sales category at Bass Pro Shops for the past 12 years in a row. Whether it’s Bass Pro shops or other companies, agencies and organizations, we’re all proud to play a part in sharing the hunting heritage.

Everything from the Wonders of Wildlife Museum in Springfield, Missouri to the many outreach efforts such as the NWTF’S JAKES program, show this industry is moving full speed ahead to make sure that 50 years from now, opportunities to hunt, fish and enjoy the outdoors are as good or better than they are today.

We hope every reader of this magazine will join in encouraging laws in their home state that give young people the right and opportunity to hunt. This is one of the single most important things we can do for the future of hunting.



The road blocks I see as a parent trying to introduce my daughter to hunting are as follows.

1.) The cost to get a child into the sport, $320.00 for a youth bow, then another $50.00 every time the child grows and the bow needs new limbs, $70.00/dz. for arrows, $30.00 for 3 broad heads, $50.00 for a release, $300 for a gun that fits them that they will grow out of in the next 5 years, etc. Then there is the cost of the mandatory hunter safty class and licenses. Come on people, how is someone in a middle class job suppose to afford this expense in these lean times?

2.) Inflation, it is hard to justify spending $200 - $300 in fuel, food, and lodging for a weekend hunting, becuase you can't find any land to hunt close to home.

3.) Limited local resources, land owners closing their property due to frivillus law suits, and the danger of hunting public land.

4.) Loss of game, I have hunted hard from October 1 - November 16 this year and seen all of 8 deer, two of which were counted twice! When I started hunting 20 years ago, I use to see ~20 deer / night, now I don't even see that in a season, because of large insurance companies paying state fish and game agencies to run deer and large game animals into extinction for greater profits. This leads children who want to start hunting into frustration because sitting in a tree stand for hours on end and not seeing anything isn't exactly fun for adults with long attention spans, imagine what it would be like for a 12 year old with a 30 minute attention span!

From my perspective we need to make introducing children to the sport of hunting both inexpensive and productive, then we can keep those that we draw to the sport and use them as ambassadors by sharing their stories with their friends. Remember in high school how you and your buddies talked about the deer you saw, and harvested and how big a day opening day was!

Mike Diehl

Urbanization is definitely a big part of the problem. Places that used to be remote and rustic, with the occasional small cabin, have seen developments of "log mansions" and the like, filled with people who want to export the couch-potato lifestyle to rural areas.

35 years ago my father's 1 room cabin was isolated. There was an open field that had been farmed during the depression era, returning to wilderness, and apple trees gone wild. You could hunt the instant you stepped out the door. Now -- a house in that old field, a log mansion immediately to his east, another new log mansion to the south, and nearby -- on what used to be a good hardwood ridge -- posted land for a thousand or more acres.

All the self-important landowners turned guided hunt entrepreneurs make me want to vomit. Who needs anti-gunners when you have people who have no commitment to the old traditions of their communities?


I live in the midwest in a small town, hunted all my life. There are three large (750,000+ people) cities about 2 hours away.

We see people with $$$ buying woods and farm fields at very $$$ prices, more than what any average worker can afford and the land costs more than a farmer can make $$ of. Also many landowners and farmers are leasing ground to the highest bidder.


I suppose the whole problem in a nutshell is it is often too much trouble to hunt. While conservation of land is admirable, I suggest that the decline in hunters is not due to loss of land and places to hunt resulting from increased urbanization and natural resource development but rather due to onerous licensing requirements, high taxes and onerous government regulation on the essentials of hunting (read: firearms, ammunition, and land use restrictions), and the the poor image of firearms owners created by the MSM and anti-gun groups. For instance, think of the amount of money one spends, and the time invested in, getting a license to hunt waterfowl (especially here in MD); one not only needs a federal license but also a state license, permission or a lease to hunt a field or a lottery placement to hunt the Bay. After adding up the time spent preparing for and jumping through hoops to be able to hunt, the time investment itself is prohibitive for the average person who holds a full-time job. Couple that with the fees for said licenses, environmentally friendly ammunition, firearm purchase or maintenance, fuel, etc. and the cost becomes prohibitive as well. Not to mention that State laws can be quite confusing when it comes to tags, bag limits, who, what, when, where, and why; and many urban and suburban areas have a dearth of hunter education courses. Perhaps the solution overall is to make it easier, in general, to hunt and let the environmentally conscience component develop along with the propagation of the sport.

Mike Diehl

The one good thing in the economic downturn is that it seems to have disemboweled the Land Speculator market.

Mr. Creosote

A few thoughts: One: (all due respect, Mike) I'm not completely buying into the argument that urbanization is one of the primary agents of change. For years I parroted this same line, and I believed it.
But then I stopped and looked around with a critical eye and came to the conclusion that the bogeyman of urbanization was kind of a bullshit catch-all answer, a quick and easy strawman to deflect attention from what I believe (and what Bob Marshall hit squarely on the head) IS one of the primary reasons for the decline of hunting: individual choice.
Simply put, more and more men are choosing not to hunt regardless of where they live.
I'm firmly convinced that if some enterprising reporter with a yen for analyzing data sets would take the time to compare hunting license sales in rural, suburban and urban areas, he's wouldn't find a helluva lot of difference.
Anecdotally speaking, I grew up in a suburban bedroom community of a major metropolitan area and now live in a small-town rural area. I see no huge difference between the two in the ratio of men who hunt to those who don't.
So then, the question is why?
My half-assed theory is something I call "cultural urbanization."
Basically it's not physical barriers (access, cost, etc.) to hunting that are driving people away, rather it's a cultural mindset of easy, self-indulgent leisure along with the glorification and celebritization of sports that has completely changed the definition of what it means to be a man in this country.
Simply put, most modern guys want to live the life of a light beer commercial. Is it any wonder their sons end up the same way?

It's not like it happened overnight or anything. This is an admittedly apocryphal example, but how many channels of ESPN are there now compared to say, 1979? Watching sports and being mindlessly entertained in hi-def is now trumpeted as an all-consuming lifestyle with no thought required: they supply the mythology, it's our job to consume it.

Hunting on the other hand is an activity (to call it a sport I think trivializes it) that, when practiced correctly, demands a certain level of devotion, introspection, reflection and respect.
And those are qualities the modern American male and his progeny either don't want to mess with or they choose to apply them to an activity more in line with our current cultural values of self-absorbed consumerism.

Even the nature of hunting itself has been warped by the influence of the era of easy gratification.
I may be a heretic here, but the majority of what passes for modern deer hunting in this country disgusts me. But that's an issue for another day, I suppose.

Suffice it to say if hunting has any hope of surviving into the future we've got to figure out a way to convince the modern American male that engaging his soul in the real world is better for him than engaging his ass on a couch in the artificial world.

I'm not optimistic...


Leasing, outfitting and traveling long distances to hunt are the three major components that I think are making it "more trouble than what it's worth" to many people.

If you really want to hunt, you can, it just boils down to how much work and/or cash do you want to put in to it.


I try and do my part. My parents are yankees and know not the first thing about hunting and where confused beyond belief as to what I would do when I brought home my limit of ducks one cold and lucky morning. I pretended I was one of the abundant rednecks living in the area and grilled them up...no leasons needed. Nobody taught me how to hunt ducks, or dress and cook them etc. The amount of effort it took me to learn the game rules from the ground up and then also the strategies and methods assosciated with hunting and firearms was a mountain of information large enough to deter all but the most determined. Luckily there are mentors still out there(many of whom I've only met since I began to get a first-hand handle on deer and ducks). These great gentlemen are always ready to not only introduce a young'un to hunting, but keep them involved in the sport weekend after weekend, year after year. Thank you, F.B. I try to return the favor of folk like these to other. I've hooked at least 3 others on the joys and excitement of the chase, and I know they will get a few of their non-hunting friends hooked eventualy also. So the solution would seem to be getting within the lines (of my younger generation) and then letting "disent" destroy the opposing forces(peta) and ad to our(hunters) numbers.


I think there are too many factors involved in the decline of hunting in some areas and one cannot really or accurately say it is because of this or that. The prevalence of single parent households may be a big factor. When you are a single mom or dad, head of household, there may not be time because of employment responsibilities, or as was mentioned the child or children are more interested in soccer or other main line sport activities. I know that habitat loss is at least a mitigating factor. In my neck of the woods there used to be quite a few farms and farmland. The real estate glut, and the more affordable land cost saw many of those farms sold and cut up into subdivisions to become the suburbs of the beach resort community where I live. Consequently one has to travel farther inland to hunt, and it may also mean having to shell out money to pay for a hunting lease.
I opine another reason that many will not admit is my generation is getting up there in years. I love hunting and try to go every chance I get however I have over the years taken many deer and I am beyond buck fever. I still enjoy the excitement of seeing deer, but its OK, don't move yet, safety off, wait for deer to present good target, OK now aim, breathe, shoot. Just my 2 cents.


I am SO tired of hearing that the solution to bucking up the hunting participation is kids, kids, kids! How about those of us who AREN'T kids and would love to have someone teach us? I have looked for several years for someplace to learn HUNTING, not gun safety, not tactical weaponry--hunting. I've found VERY few places that will teach an adult beginner, and they charge the price of an all-inclusive Bahamas vacation for ONE weekend. I'm ready to learn, but don't make me mortgage my house!


Loss of public land, rising prices of everything, fat kids, and deserters all have a part to play in this crisis. I believe that the biggest reason there are less and less hunters is our culture. Most of you guys includeded this, but didn't address it directly. I watch catoons every day, and more and more are the promoting the "OMFG!!! u have a gun!!" and the
"WTMFH?!? u killed a cute squirrley and used a live fish to stick a hook through a bigger fish!!!" way of thinking. This is how some kid stops being interested in hunting.

EX: "U know what wuld be cool? To live in the woods and hunt your own food."

"Dude! Thats freaking messed up!"

The hunter wannabe comes home and asks "Mom, can I get a BB gun so I can learn to shoot?"

the mother responds something like this,

"Boy! You will never get any type of weapon nor will I ever allow you to kill anything! Now go eat our your tofu sandwich and play educational videogames!"

"But I want to eat REAL food and look for worms in the compost pile."

then here comes the some of all boy's fears, "No son of mine will eat any animal, nor play with filthy dirty Things that arent in my beautiful, dusted, air filtered, cutsey bunny covered house!"

ALSO: he might be late for his yoga class so then his jazzersize teacher might yell at him so he'll be late to his HOW TO EAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY EATING ANYTHING class, so he'll abviously be bummed out for his therapy class.

See my point? So then our boy gives up hope of living by the land and becomes the vegetarian, super-nerd, cartoon life lesson grasper, girly, sporty, emotional, hypo-allergenic person that is our cultures refined icon (the other being the troubled, rough, goth-like, victim that culture loves to cast teens as.)

Then that boy leaves the house and says " Im gonna get a gun and learn to hunt!" he does, and then goes on to destroy all anti societys and bring hunting back to its rightfull place in both America and Britian.Just kiding.

Mack Moore

I love the article"Why Johnny won't hunt".
What I have read on this web site is very good and factual.
The big question is, what is the solution ? Maybe there is none ! We will have to adjust to whatever!
I see it from my point of view(73)that we just don't have a level playing field. Who is looking out for all hunters/fishers ? When you get down to the investment factor! It's not very profitable. Hunting has been divided up in so many differant ways that who can enjoy it? Dates, times, types, ect.
Would you buy a car and park it in the garage eleven months of a year!Would you have Dogs that you can't train but 7 days ayear! Do you like to set on the porch while others are in the wood hunting because he does it with a differant type weapon!
Should the State invest millions of dollars in more game and then have selective groups to make a profit on it, and at the same time get tax breaks. Federal lands have one set of rules and the state have a different set. Why can't we get to the bottom of it all? GREED/SELF INTEREST.
Thanks: MM/Fl


All of the previous posts make good points. Another is greed. That is greed of many current hunters. It was already mentioned that there aren't enough mentors out there. Many that should be, are too busy filling "their tags". After getting one deer, for example, instead of helping a beginner, they are off to fill a second, third or fourth tag(if they happen to actually legally do the paperwork)rather than helping the beginner actually learn how to hunt. Come on, in this land of plenty, the hunters are not starving; they don't need to kill four or more deer in a weekend, while leaving the potential hunter wondering what all the excitement is all about!! I have run across too many hunters the last few years, who have been way too busy trying to fill all of their local deer tags than to bring someone new into the sport. And I'm not talking about someone who is travelling to another state to hunt. That kind of self-interest also contributes to the lack of hunter recruitment.

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