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March 07, 2008

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Student Snaps Wolverine in Sierra Nevada

From The New York Times:

A research project aimed at weasels has turned up a bigger prize: a picture of a wolverine, an elusive animal scientists feared may have been driven out of the Sierra Nevada long ago by human activity.

The discovery could affect land-use decisions if the wolverine is declared an endangered species, a step the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is considering, although the animals typically live at high elevations where there is limited development.

Comments

MPN

Well this sounds just like the wolves in Massachusetts don't it. Just because you don't see the animal doesn't mean it ain't there. Let the population grow and open up a hunt'n season.

MPN

White Pine

Well I always thought that wolverine's were nasty things. I don't know if I would want them livin' by me. Good thing there aren't any here in New York.

White Pine

Bubba

Take it easy White Pine, just like the guy above you stated, just because you don't see 'em.....
I've never encountered a wolverine in the wild, but understand from what I've read, they are very aggressive. I've also heard that the Amerinds refered to them as "stink bears" as they were able to produce a foul odor when upset or disturbed!

Bubba

White Pine

Bubba,
What do you mean by take it easy?

White Pine

MPN

White Pine,
You said you live in NY, If you don't mind saying where in NY. I happen to live in NY also. Allegany county (that's south western NY).

White Pine

Well ain't that something I live in Erie county, Depew. Kinda near Buffalo, about 25 minutes away. Got a cabin down by you in Cuba.

White Pine

MPN

Cuba's not to far from me. We got some nice land around here don't we. Some of the best hunt'n land you could want. I hunt around the granger are.

Bubba,
Did not know they were called stink bears, but your right you never know what animals are liven by you. For all I know wolverines are in my back yard.

MPN

Meant to say granger area not granger are.

BA

Wolverines in the High Sierra of California? Guess all the cityslicker hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail will have to get a concealed carry permit or just start packing a firearm openly. Oh well, it looks like one more minority wanting special treatment........The California Grizzly and the Bison will probably be next to show up. Or maybe Bigfoot. Of course I'm being sarcastic. I'd really rather put up with the animals than the overabundance of human animals this state is plagued with.

MPN

BA,
I'd rather have thousands of grizzly bears in my back yard then noisy young roudy neighbors. That's why I live in the country where my nearest neighbor is 3 miles down the road.

MPN

Bubba

Basically, White Pine, by saying, "Take it easy", it meant don't be so quick to foo-foo it off. You never know what's out there!

Bubba

Mc. Squizzy

Sweet!
I'd love to see on of those!

BA

MPN,

I couldn't agree more. I live on the same ranch my grandfather bought by selling a mining claim in 1929. He bought it from his sister who had owned it for 20 years before that. The nearest neightbor was 3 miles away. Now all the timber has been cut, there's a house on every hill, and in 20 years it will look like San Francisco. What a shame to see our country going the way that only benefits realtors. I'm at 2700 ft. elevation and everyone else is clearing and burning everything in sight. It looks like a desert. I have 40 acres of manzanita, pines, and oaks. I refuse to clear it. The wildlife has no where else to go. Bring back the Grizzlies and these people would be heading south.

MPN

BA,

I'm still lucky and the people that live by me all hunt, so the chance of our land being cleared is low right now. Plus we have a lot of state land surrounding us that is nothin' but forest. Our biggest problem is the state wants to put Wind turbines on our property. And gas wells! Horrible. They should stay away from our land.

MPN

Bubba

But MPN, those windmills are a renewable energy source!
What's a few(?) access roads sliced through your wilderness area in the sake of saving wilderness areas? You gotta think of the greater good!(?)

From what I hear MPN, those windmills do not produce enough electricity to offset the environmental damage that is caused by the access roads and such that is required to erect and maintain them! Not only that, I think it would be neat to see one up close, but to have the local scenery chewed up by a forest of the d%^& things is something else!
I once heard an "Energy Consultant" that said, "The most efficient fuel to electric generation method is still coal! They are by far the easiest to maintain! Far less pollution per KWH than nuclear! It has been so long since a nuclear plant was constructed, no one knows how to go about licensing a new one! Not only that, no one wants one in their back yard!" He's also the one I'm quoting about the wind generators! I'm no economist, biologist, or energist(?) or even ecologist, but it makes sense to me!

Bubba

MPN

Bubba,
Down by arcade a town about 30 minutes from me they have installed those good for nothin' windmills(80 of them), and they don't look pretty. When I drive through there I no longer see the beautiful scenery of the country but rather I see an alien like tower spinning an making noise on the hillsides. It's horrible to see how "city" like that town looks now. I've lived down there my whole life and I hate what is happening. Many move there to get away from the city, but it is finding its way to us. I'm strongly against the putting up of those crappy contraptions, regardless of the energy they provide.

MPN

Mystery Man

Bubba,
Sorry about my small mind but are you for or against windturbines.

MM

White Pine

MPN,
I know exactly what windmills you're talking about, the ones right before the turn to arcade. And your description is right on they do make it look alien like. Really an umpleasent sight. At first your like oh neat those are cool, but then the more you see them the are really ruining the look of the country. I'm not a fan of them either.

White Pine

Blue Ox

Stinkbear! LOL!

Bubba

Mystery Man?

Am I for or against windmill electricity?
That is a very deep question!
As a rural Okie, I wouldn't mind having a small wind driven generator, kinda just for kicks and giggles.
What I'm against, I suppose, is not the electricity, but the wind generators are supposed to be "eco-friendly". The areas I've seen that have these generators, have been chopped to bits with roads, and like the guys above said, the first time I saw them I thought, "Wow, far out and groovy!" but the longer I look at them, it turns to, "That's awful!"

Bubba

MPN

Bubba,
They may look cool in the beginning but wait when 80 of them appear as they did in my area they don't look pretty any more. But I do understand why you may like them, and I'm not saying that liking them is wrong. It's just when one goes up the next day 50 go up.

MPN




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