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August 09, 2007

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Discussion Topic: Should Robo Duck Be Banned Everywhere?

From the Arkansas Democrat Gazette:

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission has tabled a proposal to ban [all] electronically-powered decoys for duck hunting in Arkansas.

Freddie Black, vice chairman for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, said the commission tabled the proposal because the 14 other states in the Mississippi Flyway Council are unwilling to ban spinning wing decoys. He said it would be unfair to require Arkansas duck hunters to make further sacrifices when other states in the council refuse to address the effects that spinning wing decoys might have on duck migration patterns and harvest patterns.

What do you think? Is there a problem? Should the other state’s address it? Should they ban spinning-wing dekes?

Comments

Matt Mallery

Ban it!

R. Jones

What deference does it make how you kill them as long as you don't exceed the limit? If the game and fish comish thinks these things are too effective, they should reduce the bag limit,- but that might reduce duck stamp sales. Bottom line, if you spend hundreds of dollars to kill 5 or 6 ducks a day for a few days a year, I don't care if you use a live mallard hen tied to a stump. Just don't be a hog about it

Matt Mallery

What difference does it make? I guess that means high fence hunting, spotlighting, etc is okay.

How about I just go to the local park and through a net over the ducks when they come to eat the bread I've brought them?

mike

the difference it makes is between moral hunters and people like you. the way you harvest your game makes all the difference in the world, i have to agree with matt m

mike

It looks like another “decoy” has brought hunters under the gun of their fellow sportsmen!

Convincing hunters to assume the moral high ground over fellow hunters and then attack their own is a ploy the AR's have used in every animal use venue they seek to destroy.

While we are banning things and condemning fellow hunters they are racking up points with the rest of the population using our own words against us in totally different circumstances.

Say we ban robo ducks because they aren't "sporting enough" for a few, quickly you will see discussions about turkey decoys being unfair, and ultimately discussions about using any tool to fool any poor little animal with a smaller brains as being "unsporting".

Meanwhile wildlife managers and other accepted hunting practices get saddled with the same new regs and changed public sentiment and are then prohibited; from throwing nets over park ducks which have over populated and become public nuisances, so then AR’s can blame hunters for artificially inflating populations for “live target practice”.

In times past we outlawed electronic calls and now they are encouraged as essential in helping reduce the snow goose populations where the laws allow.

There are many more examples out there of our good intentions paving the road to our demise!

I would suggest that hunters eager to save our sport spend time on animal welfare or animal rights blogs shooting holes in the balloons they send up and use hunting blogs to encourage and help each other in a more positive manor!

Your friend afield

Mike O
Lousiville KY

mike

BTW: Would a lifesize little girl in a pink dress holding out a plastic cracker be an immoral or quickly outlawed decoy?

With the amount of urbanized waterfowl it would probably be very effective.

While I doubt many of the macho cammo croud would be brassy enough to carry one afield there are plenty of soft newbies encroaching on our sport so please let me know your thougths ..... Hello Cabella's...I have an idea!!!

Matt Mallery

Bill Heavey accuratley stated in a recent article that the animal rights crowd is not the bigeest threat to hunting. Rather, our fellow hunters are through their behavior. The pro robo duck crowd should understand this. This whole idea that hunter should always stand with other hunters is ridiculous. If I disagree with the way a hunter behaves in teh filed or feel he is usuing less that fair chase methods to take wildlife, I am OBLIGATED TO SPEAK OUT!

Steve T

OK this could go either way. Not a big deal as far as I can tell.

First of all, most of the ducks that do fall for said decoy are yearling birds, which means: Not all ducks fall for it. Many birds become wary very quickly.

Secondly, just because some birds DO attract to them does not mean the hunter will actually be able to shoot them. I think that if people ARE using these decoys, they should certainly hold a higher standard, and by that I mean not shooting birds on the water.

However, using these decoys will get more birds to fly closer to check out the spread. When this happens there also needs to be a higher standard for how close the birds are. In other words, no sky busting.

These decoys allow for people to buy their way to birds, rather than actually take the time to be better callers. Of course visual is better, but if these were outlawed, it would make calling a lot more important.

I guess the biggest thing is to be sporting and sportsman-like and try to do things in an ethical way.

One last comment is that if everyone uses them, they become less effective. Birds are NOT stupid. Sometimes you have to use them just to compete with the others around you and make everything fair.

Nate

I am a hunter who uses a Robo Duck as a part of my spread. I don’t think that I need to justify my use of the Robo Duck as it is currently a legal decoy in the State in which I hunt. If you don’t feel that it’s fair to use such a decoy or feel decoys are unfair I would encourage you not to purchase them and I fully respect your opinion and decision not to use them. But don’t feel that because you chose not to use a Robo Duck that you have somehow reached moral high ground and can now talk down to hunters who chose to use these Legal Decoys.

Duck Hunter

I agree with some above. If you don't like the idea, don't use it. As long as the limit is not exceeded, I have no problem with it.

Ash L

I agree with Steve T. I also live in a state where robo ducks are legial. I understand that some people dont agree with the use of robo ducks but please consider this. Not all people live in areas of the countrey where waterfowl can be easily taken.
Robo ducks help these hunters to increase there bag limts a little bit and may provide a yongster with his or her first duck.
I too use robo ducks in my spread and still think its sporting. Like it was said above just because you have a robo duck out dosnt mean there going to come pouring in!

Steve J

Motorized decoys pose no problem to waterfowl hunting. Young birds, old birds - any bird that is looking for a place to land, will... robo or no robo. I have used several of these in my spread for nine years - trust me - the only difference is I'm nine years older.

No difference in migration, no impact on the waterfowl population. I have just as much luck today as I did in the first 11 years I hunted, without a motorized decoy.

Can I call any better, I guess so. I have more equipment, boats-dogs-semi-auto shotgun. But no significant difference in my kill ratio - three birds per outing. Geese might be a bit better - but that is due to the huge increase in their numbers in the past six years.

I enjoy using the motorized decoys - just another piece of equipment for me to lug around, plug in the night before and the dog to bark at when the wings get off-center and make noise. If nothing else - it gives us something to discuss.

I love this sport and am truly dedicated to it... and all the advanced technology that comes with it.

Cheers




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