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May 22, 2007

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Discussion Topic: Should You Lose Your License For Hunting Without Permission?

From an Associated Press story on KSOW News:

[Oklahoma] Governor [Brad] Henry is vetoing a bill that would've allowed the taking of hunting and fishing licenses of those who hunt or fish without permission on farms, ranches or forests.

The bill would have removed a requirement that the land be posted "no hunting" or "no fishing" . . . .

Henry says he vetoed the bill because it's overly broad and prohibits long-standing hunting and fishing practices and traditions.

What do you think?

Comments

TDHoward

I hate to think a Governor of any state would defend trespassing as a long standing tradition!

Get permission, it's common courtesy!

b shaw

you should lose your hunting license if you trespass.

Sam

I applaud the Governor for vetoing the bill. Trespassing is wrong and there should be penalties for trespassing on posted land. But the fact that the bill wanted to remove the requirement that the land be posted "no hunting" or "no fishing" is wrong. In my area of Central Washington many times you can not really tell where public land ends and private land starts. "Private Property" signs and "No Hunting" signs are extremely important in letting hunters and fishers know where they can and cannot go. If you own land and you don't want people on it, then Post it.

Steve

It seems funny that many urban hunters seem to think the land is theirs when they invade western Kansas during the opening of pheasant or deer season. I'm sure they would not allow me to traipse all over their property (even though it is not their livelyhood only their residence) if I so chose. I see nothing wrong whatsoever in pulling the licenses of those who hunt without permission. What's funny is how often they will look you in the eye and lie about having permission when they are standing on your land, and you've never seen them before in your life. I have even had a man approach me and ask for permission (which I granted) and then he brought others with him to hunt and charged them for his "guide services." Honesty and respect for the property of others should be the order of the day, not deceit and dishonesty.

tom

gotta agree with Sam. if you are trespassing on posted land, then let the trespass laws be enforced. out here in the West (MT,WY,CO,etc) we have LOTS of private property intertwined w/ government land, not many fences, and not every trespass is intentional or an effort to mess w/ the landowners.

kim

Hunting or fishing on someones property is about the same as poaching. Land should be posted but if not, then if you don't own it or the state government doesn't own it then don't use it. Believe me if you went on to military land they would take alot more than your license.

Chuck

Here in Central New York it seems over the past few years more and more people have posted there land and these same people used to give permissiom to use there land and now its gotten so every year its harder to find hunting areas and soon there will only be what little state land there is available and if you ask for permission forget it.Trespass is wrong but when someone does come to you and ask have a heart!

Jason

There are plenty of penalties for trespassing, don't need more. Just better enforcement of what we got.

TDHoward

If I understand this correctly, the bill would have made it illegal to hunt or fish on private property without permission, whether the property was posted or not.

Just because property isn't posted, doesn't give anyone the right to trespass. It is up to the honest hunter to KNOW where their boundaries are. The impedus shouldn't be on the landowner to place signs posting that the land is private.
ASK permission, know where the boundaries are, and don't trespass.

Dr. Ralph

According to the TWRA, it is almost impossible to enforce the trespassing laws. Land must be posted! If someone can enter your land without seeing a no trespassing sign they are not trespassing. Fortunately paper companies own much of the land here and sell permits.

Mike Diehl

When land is posted the land should be off-limits to hunting of any kind. The animals on private land are publically owned unless they are domestic livestock. No landowner has the right to deny access to publically owned animals in order to lease access to same to a limited few, nor to harvest same for themselves.

Vetoing this bill was an outstanding move.




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