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Discussion Topic: Should All States Ban Point-and-Click Hunting?

From Illinois’ Post-Dispatch:

You peer at the image of the antelope wandering across your computer screen. Your hand is on the computer mouse, gently guiding the onscreen rifle toward the animal. You wait for it to hold still. Then you line it up in your sights, your finger ready on the mouse button.

It could all be part of some unusually realistic computer game, except for what happens next: You click the mouse — and hundreds, even thousands of miles away, an actual rifle fires a bullet at the antelope.

It's called "remote-controlled hunting," the brainchild of a Texas ranch owner whose startling new venture had barely begun before the Texas Legislature shut it down two years ago. Nonetheless, concern that the concept could still become the next new thing in virtual entertainment has set off a volley of pre-emptive prohibitions in more than 20 states around the country, including Missouri. Illinois could be next.

Is it time for a nationwide ban?

Comments

Trent M.

Absolutly, this is a disgusting thing that needs to go away. I don't even know what else to say. It is a vulgar mutation of what hunting is supposed to be. If this is how you want to hunt, but Cabelas Big Game hunter for your PC.

David W Jeffers

Unethical, unsportsmanlike, for those of us how spend literally hundreds of hours in the field, buying a hunting license does not insure you will ever harvest an animal; it merely gives you the legal opportunity to try. Then comes hours of HUNTING, not gaming. How does one get buck fever from a mouse and computer screen? Where would the since of accomplishment come from. There are hundreds of hunting games on the market, (I have three sons' we all hunt and game).
Take this new technology to Iraq and send our boys home.
One vote for a nation wide Ban

Phillip

I was one of the first people to contact the Texas DPW about this proposed venture, and feel as strongly about it now as I did then.

It's a total perversion of the spirit of hunting.

I'm very much a laissez-faire kind of person when it comes to the different ways people hunt. If you use dogs, bait, whatever... as long as it's legal and generally ethical I feel like it's your choice, have at it. But hunting from a thousand miles away over a computer monitor and keyboard... that's too much for even me to bear.

There is nothing of hunting in it, and it reduces the sport to point and click killing. Nothing more. That is the domain of the video game, and living creatures should not take the place of pixels in our crosshairs.


.308 MAN

FIRST OFF WERE DOES THE ANIMAL HAVE THE CHANCE TO SEE, SMELLL, OR HEAR YOU. I LOVE TO HUNT, BUT THIS IS FAR FROM IT. THIS GUY HAS GOT SOME KAHUNAS. HE SHOULD LOOSE ALL RIGHTS TO HUNTING, AND HAVE HIS ASS KICKED!! WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO???

you should get 40-life for this bull

How do you get the meat?

where is the fair chace?

Joe Ware

I agree with Phillip (above),but wouldn't want to mess up my boots on a worthless a..! Heck,for you that have read the current issue,just go out an buy a .50 caliber rifle and reach out and touch something at a 1000yds+. Now THAT'S a notch above point & click. Yeh,right? Geez,let's give PETA some more ammo. Like old 'possum Pogo said in the comic strip.."I have met the enemy..and it is US".

Woody

Absolutely a nationwide ban on this "vulgar mutation of hunting" should be enacted RIGHT NOW. I guess I understand where this guys concept came from, but in addition to all the other points people have made about this "activity", I have to mention that when you shoot an animal and have to field dress and prepare it to be eaten, you have to come to grips with the fact that you have killed an animal. This "game" completely eliminates the responsibility that is involved with killing another animal. Hunting is something that I love and as Philip said earlier, this guy needs to have his hunting priviledges taken away and have his ASS kicked...

CRH

When I first heard of this a few years ago I thought it might be a good idea. Slow down, not for me. Just hear me out for a second. My father-in law used to hunt fish and shoot sporting clays constantly. He won SC State Championship several times. My mother-in law won in the ladies class several times also. Then about seven years ago my father-in law had a stroke and is completely paralized on his right side. He is wheel chair bound and rarely if ever does he get a chance to hunt. I went on a special hunt with him a few years ago but we never saw a thing. There is nowhere on my club property that I could set him up that he would have a chance at seeing anything so I thought this would give him an opportunity to hunt again. Then I really thought about it. This is not hunting! This is nothing more than a video game, except when you click on the mouse something really dies. I never brought this up to him but I really don't think he would get any pleasure out of it at all. This truly shows no respect for the game we chase! One more vote for a nationwide ban!

Warren Meek

I wish I could say something new here but everyone has already covered it. This is not hunting, this is shooting, and again just even more material for anti-hunting groups to use against us as a means to work against true hunting. It is sad to think that in the future a father and son's first hunting trip could be in front of a computer screen

Nate

To me this sounds like a bad accident waiting to happen. The liability involved with this sort of contraption would me immense, not to metion the fact, as arleady mentioned, it is very un-sportsman like. I realize that there are individuals out there who want to participate in hunting but cannot because of physical restrictions, but this is not a safe way to remedy that.

Matt Mallery

This does not surprise me that this came from Texas, a state that allows game fences and imports exotic animals then charges $10,000 to shoot one as it eats from a hay bale. I'm not knocking Texans, I grew up there. But hunting is a big business there and all sorts of unethical things happen there. This computer hunting is, of course, disgusting. There is nothing more I can say that has not been said.

Erik

This is as unethical as it gets. And I certainly wouldn't lump this "rancher" in with the majority of Texans. In fact, I resent the above comment about unethical activities in Texas. Unethical hunting happens everywhere and to even include game fences (which in some places are tougher to hunt than "fair-chase" land) in a discussion about the disgusting nature of point-and-click hunting is absurd.

Scott Troxel

I've always felt that the purpose of hunting was to be communing with nature, matching your skills and knowledge against your prey and the elements, with a certain amount of luck involved. When you come back with meat for the table and maybe a trophy for the wall, it's an incredible feeling. When you come back empty-handed, it still feels pretty good to have been out there. All of that is missing from point-and-click hunting. It's not hunting, it's not even worthy of being called shooting. It's killing for the sake of killing.

Josh

These folks need to pick up a copy of Cabela's Big Game Hunter... because this real killing is an all-around BAD IDEA! The last thing we need is more of these kinds of programs that make us responsible sportsmen look bad. It seems unanimous we should ban it.

Gary

"I've always felt that the purpose of hunting was to be communing with nature, matching your skills and knowledge against your prey and the elements, with a certain amount of luck involved. When you come back with meat for the table and maybe a trophy for the wall, it's an incredible feeling. When you come back empty-handed, it still feels pretty good to have been out there. All of that is missing from point-and-click hunting. It's not hunting, it's not even worthy of being called shooting. It's killing for the sake of killing."
The author of these words truly knows what hunting is about. He has has the heart and soul of a true hunter. His answer to the question at hand is perfict from in view. May he live long, shoot straight, and be rewarded with many a clean kill.

Jim

I think there should be a nationwide ban on this. This is not Hunting. Hunting is when you go out in the field and shoot something in person. I don't have a problem if it's a video game where you practice on screen & thats it.

A few days ago, i ended up on the Humane Society web site.....and i saw a big tab on the side of the page that said "hunting," so i click on it. There was pages and pages of BS about hunting and was promoting even ethical, fair chase hunting in a bad way. All we need is for these people to get a story on point and click "hunting" and there goes our support from anyone.

brent

what more needs to be said?? people who support internet,point n click hunting should be drawn and quartered.

lief

Point-and-Click hunting should be illegal! This is not hunting -it is gaming and should be left to graphics and the software industry.

jess

abcder

jdb

technology has gone too far. I just wish if there was the technology to send me and my family back to a time when things wernt so assaine

Bobby

There is a huge safety issue involved here. I cannot imagine being able to see beyond the intended target to carefully study the area where a bullet might go in case of a miss. This is crazy! I vote for a nationwide ban. Reminds me too much of road hunters at night! They shoot at animals with spotlights, most of the time fully unaware of what's behind their target! Too dangerous!

J S

National ban? Definitely!!! Besides, this could be used as the carrot we hang in front of the anti-hunters to let them feel good and they've accomplished something. Keep them off our backs for a while.




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