I'm very disappointed with the Washington Post's "fact check" here, because they got it wrong. The NRA says Obama supports "a ban on shotguns and rifles most of us use for hunting." WaPo purports to dismiss that as inaccurate by writing that it what Obama wants is a renewal of the assault weapons ban and that the claim "refers to semiautomatic rifles and pistols covered by the assault weapons ban, which expired in March 2004."

Putting aside the fact that an AK has hunting utility, there's a plain error in WaPo's "fact check," which, at least in part, purports to invalidate the NRA's claim because it includes "shotguns" where the assault weapons ban only affected "semiautomatic rifles and pistols." In fact, the ban also made illegal semiautomatic shotguns with a pistol grip, a product that Remington is currently marketing to hunters, as you can see at the link below.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_11-87/model_11-87_sportsman_ShurShot_synthetic_turkey.asp

Obama is clearly afraid of the NRA.

He would not have resorted to this action if that was not the case.

Obama and his goon squad have been doing this sort of thing for weeks. In Missouri they are filing bogus charges with the State Police to silence critics, while ACORN is stuffing ballot boxes in Ohio. Please check out DonkeySlap.com one of the very first bloggers to push for Sarah Palin. If he is elected the 2nd Amendment is gone and I'm not sure the 1st will survive 4 years.

You're not wrong, Dave. Here is the link to the NRA's own site that says the same thing.

http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/read.aspx

A wonder that the mainstream media has left this alone. If this is the way Obama behaves as a candidate, imagine what he'll do as president. You guys who are always writing, "I'm a lifelong hunter and shooter, and I'm voting Obama" have to understand that this is NOT just about guns.

Guns are power. Guns mean that you can enforce the law in your own home, no need for lawyers, judges, or congressional oversight complete with blue ribbon panels, when a bad guy breaks down your door. Guns mean that the private citizen has the ability to take direct, independent-of-the-government action when a hurricane knocks the power out and mobs of looters run the streets. This amount of power in the hands of private citizens is impossible for liberals in general to stomach. Obama is just part of the herd there.

This isn't about criminals and it never has been. What gun law ever disarmed a single criminal? Obama doesn't want US to have guns because he doesn't trust US with them. What else doesn't he trust law abiding citizens with? Obama voters, please tell me why I'm wrong, and why Obama's agenda is a good thing in your opinion.

Bob: You should do some more looking. The NRA advertisements are NOT, as a point in fact, misleading. They are based on Obama's factual actions and statements.

More on that

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/09/23/more-on-factcheckorgs-bad-fact-checking/#comments

http://volokh.com/posts/1222201928.shtml

http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/09/24/how-many-facts-could-factcheck-check-if-factcheck-could-check-facts/

I see on your blog roll "say uncle". I saw this when it came out plus the cease and desist letters from Obama campaign to PA radio stations for running the ads.

If your are the gun nut you shold have been more educated on the truth of Obama's system for shutting down dangerous dissent.

Stanley Kurz goes checking out the papers of the Annerberg Challenge. The radio interview was shouted down by Obama supporters. The Missouri goon squads that prosecutors and sheriffs implied prosecution under libel laws for ads.

The Governor of Missouri gave a statement of the police state tactics.

eyeball sez:

> A wonder that the mainstream media has left this alone.

No, it's not a wonder at all.

http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/025096.php

This is why we should always take anything a liberal has to say with a grain of salt. Speaking with a forked tongue is a liberal pastime. If we are united toward a secure, vibrant, world-leading nation...vote conservative.
As a side note: did anyone hear the new grumblings from the military possibly ditching the M4? Here's a link to follow. http://military.einnews.com/news/m4-carbine
I can't get in because I don't have a user ID, but it seems at least on it's face that we're finally getting to get rid of that mouse gun.

And another thing: Factcheck trusts Kennedy's explanation that the ammunition be 'marketed or designed' to be armor piercing. OK, makes sense, good enough for me. "Tough enough for a moose, gentle enough on a flimsy vest"

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It will be interesting to see how many of the Liberal blowhards who appear on this site will defend NObama Hussein now. Watch and see how fast the environmental Nazis reinstate the ban on offshore drilling if they win the election. Next in line will be to install bleeding heart judges on the Supreme Court to reinterpret the recent ruling on the 2nd ammendment.For gun owners to think otherwise is sheer folly !Dont forget conservative talk radio has to go also and last but not least THIS FORUM.!

An Obama administration with Sens. Schumer, Durbin, Kennedy and Feinstein in the majority is quite scary. They have expanded their ridiculous definition of assault rifles to include an incredible number of hunting rifles, many of which I have used to take deer.