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August 27, 2008

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Petzal: The F-Team

In the September issue of American Rifleman, on page 40,  you’ll find a highly edifying bind-in card set entitled “Barack Obama’s Ten-Point Plan to ‘Change’ the Second Amendment.” Based on how he has voted in the past, both in the Illinois Legislature and in the Senate, and what he has said in public about gun control, it reads like this:

1) Ban use of firearms for home defense.
2) Pass Federal laws eliminating right to carry.
3) Ban the manufacture, sale, and possession of handguns.
4) Close down 90 percent of the gun shops in America.
5) Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
6) Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500 percent.
7) Restore voting rights for 5 million criminals including those who have been convicted of using a gun to commit a violent crime.
8) Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.
9) Mandate a government-issued license to purchase a firearm.
10) Appoint judges to the U.S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

If you’d like to check the documentation for all this, go to www.nraila.org/Obama.

As if this weren’t enough, Obama has selected Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware as his running mate. Biden does not get all the credit he deserves as an anti-gunner, but he ranks right up there with Senators Schumer, Clinton, Boxer, and Feinstein as one of the very worst. Both Obama and Biden are rated “F” by the NRA/ILA.

You may not care for John McCain’s memory lapses, or his wife’s seven homes, or the fact that he can’t work a computer (these are actually pluses as far as I’m concerned), but as far as gun control goes, I think this election is about as clear cut as it gets.


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I was born and raised England and have seen Liberal Politions of every kind, but this guy scares me not because of what he believes but of what his "Fans" not supporters believe. I have neighbours that support him that believe that the CIA and Isreal bombed the world trade center. In England hunting is an Elite sport for the rich and they still get to hunt there even with all the Gun Legislation. What happens with anti gunners is they just end up making hunting and shooting so expensive it becomes a rich mans sport. Please VOTE against Obama if you don't like Mcain.


Mr. Petzal,
Very well stated.
Senator McCain was not my first choice either, but the difference between the choices are vast.


Amen, Dave! And Amen NRA! I have a great deal of concern for Obama's "inner character", as well as his gun background. His past Muslin upbringing and family ties as well as his choise in
pastors speaks to what I know of how a persons past influences the choises he makes in the future. And when the future of the country is at stake....need I say more?


Im glad to see you coming to your senses about poor naive Barack.

On the other hand I do find it disgusting that to ensure my gun rights year after year I have to vote for some one whom I disagree with on both health care and taxes.

Dr. Ralph

I really don't see how this election can even be close. Am I that out of touch or are we about to see a new definition of the word landslide? The talking heads never seem to have a clue so what I see on television doesn't bother me. A man with Muslim ties when we are involved in a "Holy War" with the Muslims whose lifelong minister is as anti-American as they come and there are people out there who will actually vote for him to run our country? Seems that so called content of character really was a dream...

A woman

Hope you don't call your spouse the thing McCain calls his.

I am undecided, but certainly am not going to base my decision on tabloid fodder and rumor. Perhaps I'll look at the issues and see where they stand.

On a side note, I have a very close friend who was a POW at the same time as McCain. This guy hates him and would not vote for him. Perhaps there's stuff we just don't know about the man. Who knows?

Matt in MN

I’m surprised more level headed people like Dave agree with the NRA on this. I guess I’ll have to take a more in depth look. I’m pretty undecided on the presidential candidates so far. Neither candidate excites me, I’m just glad Billery is out!!

I usually dismiss those crazy, howling, blabbering political articles in my NRA magazine as just so much horse sh!t. Am I the only one that holds their nose each year when they send their check to the NRA? I know they’re a necessary evil, but good grief. The recent article about lead in venison was laughable. Gee, Minnesota was foolish to throw out some venison that had lead it in, and order more studies, but Iowa did the prudent thing by testing TEN samples and deciding it was all safe. WOW. I’m definitely a reluctant NRA member. I figure I send in my money so they can offset the likes of Rosie O’Donnell.


To: A woman
Very good drive-by sniping.
"base my decision on tabloid fodder and rumor".
"Perhaps I'll look at the issues and see where they stand".
Where have you been?
HEY, their positions are plain.
John McCain has been in the Senate and in public for many years.
His voting records and speeches are public record.
I do not agree with everything he's said and done, and disagree strongly with many, but he's one of the two choices available.
Barack Obama has been in the Senate for less than one term. His big claims to fame are that he made a good speech at the last convention and that he was against the Iraq war (well, he wasn't even in the Senate at that time, so what a BOLD statement)...and oh, yeah the media likes his wife. And he's a DEMOCRAT. (Hint...no he isn't, he's a Socialist, just listen to him).
"Perhaps there's stuff we just don't know about the man".
If you don't have enough information to make a decision, either get busy and find out, or please stay home on election day.
Voting is not a right, it's a responsibility.

Jackson Landers

Obama backed off of the vast majority of the ignorant bills he'd supported in the Illinois state Senate after he got to Washington and had people (NRA and others) explain the technical issues that he'd been ignorant of before.

Most advocacy for gun control comes from basic ignorance of technical facts about guns. Explain those facts to intelligent people patiently and politely and they will usually end up agreeing with us. This is what happened with Obama.

If we are not prepared to welcome those who have been educated into supporting many of our positions, then we are screwed.

Meanwhile, I've been watching Wayne LaPierre condemn John McCain in the pages of American Rifleman for many years now. The idea that this guy who we'd all agreed is anti-gun is suddenly a knight in shining armor for gun owners is ridiculous.

Neither of these guys is a life-long supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but neither of them is looking to make any big changes to gun laws either. With the Heller vs. DC decision to protect us, it's hard to see a serious case for why gun-owners should support one over the other.

Personally, I'll be voting for the guy who isn't showing all the symptoms of early stages of Alzheimers disease. John McCain can't remember how many houses he owns, couldn't remember what kind of car he drives and thought that Vladimir Putin was the President of Germany. At the age of 72, the word for that is 'senile.' America must not risk putting a senile, mentally incompetent man at the helm of the world's greatest superpower. I don't know how much protection from anti-gunners that anyone is expecting from a man who will probably be wearing Depends and wandering the halls in his pajamas within 4 years.


I’ll be watching tonight’s Democratic Convention to see if there will be a coup de tat by the Clintonites during the role call.

IMHO it also gives an idea how the two Radical Left factions are fighting to control Democratic Party….and what’s in store for the average American if there’s a shift in the White House to this particular Lot. The idea of a clean sweep by the Democrats in this election….well, it gives me shivers.


Barack Obama got "educated" on technical issues involving guns, abortion, the church he attended for 20 years, etc when he decided to run for President. I am with Petzal in believing this election is as easy a choice as we have had in my adult life. Anyone ignorant or uninformed enough to vote for Obama will get what they deserve, maybe what they want.


Amen, Jackson.

I don't much care for any politician or candidate, but folks, marching in lockstep with the NRA propaganda machine is just as bad as the "peta-philes" falling back on their own misinformation machine.

None of the issues on that "ten point list" were clear-cut, nor were they all quite as full of evil intent as the NRA spin doctors made them out to be. Add to that the fact that Obama, like a majority of other city-born and bred politicians, had no clue what went on in the world of shooting and hunting... and the fact that, as Jackson points out above, once the complications are spelled out he was interested in re-addressing his stance... well, it's not quite as damning a picture

It's crap like this that every year makes me reconsider my membership in the NRA. I've hung tough so far, but dammit folks... can't we do better?

As far as the election, I'm pretty danged scared, not because I think Obama will win (odds are in his favor, like it or not), but because I think we're going to see another sweep of liberals throughout Washington, and many of them ARE a very real threat to our right to keep and bear arms.

The President is not the legislature nor the judicial branch... they are the ones who make and uphold the laws of this land. Sure, the President can advance his agenda, but I just don't see gun control being real high on his priority list. No, the threat is in the other two houses...


By the way, Jackson, what was it last night when Obama thought he was in St. Louis, when he was actually in Kansas City? Alzheimers, or is he just stupid? This guy has more episodes of foot-in-mouth disease on the campaign trail than George Bush ever had, it just doesn't get reported and hammered the same way for Obama. You Tube is full of hilarious Obama gaffes and mistatements. The only thing the guy has been consistent about is being firmly on both sides of nearly every issue. What a leader!

Clay Cooper

“We the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”
-Abraham Lincoln


Just exactly what do you people think the NRA is for? Their main claim to fame over the last 30 years has been the constant fight to support our 2d Amendment against the politicians who don't trust us with guns, but would never step outside without their armed bodyguards. I have been a member off and on (when I can afford it) for about 10 years. When I am a member I simply choose American Hunter instead of First Freedom. The fewer people who subscribe to FF the more likely they are to remember that we aren't all into being beaten over the head with the fact that there are anti-gunners out there. The last time I dropped my membership was when they dropped their women's magazine. It was intelligently written and well balanced, unlike some of the drivel coming from some other club magazines I've had.

BTW John, your sentiment is correct, your statement isn't. Voting is a right, just like owning and carrying a firearm is a right. But ALL rights come with responsibilities.

Clay Cooper

“Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
-Richard Salant, former President of CBS News

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
-Patrick Henry, from “Against the Federal Constitution”, 1788-Jun-5

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
-Ben Franklin

“The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.”
-John Hay, 1872

“Facts must be distorted, relevant circumstances concealed, and a picture presented which by its crude coloring will persuade the ignorant people that their Government is blameless, their cause is righteous, and that the indisputable wickedness of the enemy is beyond question.
A moment's reflection would tell any reasonable person that such obvious bias cannot possibly represent the truth. But the moment's reflection is not allowed; lies are circulated with great rapidity. The unthinking mass accept them and by their excitement sway the rest.
The amount of rubbish and humbug that pass under the name of patriotism in wartime in all countries is sufficient to make decent people blush when they are subsequently disillusioned.”
-Arthur Ponsonby, Falsehood in Wartime, 1928

“the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”
-J. Edgar Hoover, 1956, speaking of communism

“I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.”
-Thomas Jefferson

“That government is best which governs least, because its people discipline themselves.”
Thomas Jefferson

“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.”
-President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

“the purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people”
-Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.”
-Dresden James

“We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.”
-George Orwell

“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
-George Orwell

“To ignore the evidence, and hope that it cannot be true, is more an evidence of mental illness.”
-William Blase

“The best time to buy is when blood is running in the streets.”
-Baron Nathan Mayer de Rothschild

“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”

“The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself. I'm of the view that you can't take a broad approach to other rights, such as First Amendment rights, and then interpret the Second Amendment so narrowly that it could fit in a thimble.”
-Senator Charles Schumer, D-NY, 2002-May-8 (http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/SchumerWebsite/pressroom/press_releases/PR00975.html)

“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the right of resistance? Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
-Thomas Jefferson

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. [...] Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms.”
-V.I. Lenin, from Collected Works, Vol. 35, 4th ed., p. 286. Congressional Record, April 28, 1970, p. H3601

“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”
-Joseph Stalin, from “Reply to the discussion on the Political Reports of the Central Committee”, Dec. 7, 1927. Stalin, Works, Vol. 10, p. 378

“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
-George Orwell

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.”
-George Mason

“It is not the function of government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.”
-US Supreme Court, 339 US 382,447

“I'll rule this country by executive order if Congress won't adopt my agenda.”
-Bill Clinton, 1998-Jul-4

“One man with courage makes a majority.”
-Andrew Jackson

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-Daniel Webster

Have a NICE DAY!


Our more senior bloggers correct me if I’m wrong, but I think there’s precedence here in the ’52 and ’56 Elections. A friend of mine wrote,

"… [Two] Adlai Stevenson contests against Eisenhower with approximately same results; Obama will be lucky to get a 100 electoral votes…..
...Stevenson too, was the original Left Wing, Progressive, "egghead" coined by Joe Alsop. Very talented, very bright, Progressive running against a war hero and very much involved in a stalemate, unpopular war with Korea in the 1st (1952) election.
Economy was slow but being pushed by military industrial complex that even Eisenhower warned against. Mainstream Dems wanted Harriman but Left faction won out. Result: absolutely crushed in 52 & 56. Progressive movement never recovered. Then, as now, mainstream Dems were so pissed they voted for Ike instead of the egghead.”

Guess we'll have to watch the show, Folks.

“It is important that you do not say that you [are] calling because the campaign asked you to, but because you are outraged with what was said about her.”
-campaign aide to Hillary Clinton, in a ca. 2000-Jul-19 bulk email asking the candidate's supporters to protest allegations that Clinton had once used the phrase “#ucking Jew bastard” in anger

Dick Wilson

It is a great concern that Mr. Obama makes decisions based on a lack of knowledge or understanding. The fact that he is cunning enough to change or modify those positions after being publicly educated is even less reassuring, and does not mean that he has changed his opinion.It only means that he wants to be elected so he can enforce his opinions. Add book bans to the list and where in Europe and Asia have you seen similar positions?


I'm not particularly thrilled by either of the major candidates, but Obama really is downright scary. His qualifications are about the same as those for a sophomore class president (and I don't mean college-level), and his attraction to voters is more like that of a rock star than a leader. (And he's attracting about the same kind of people.)

McCain, however, is almost as scary, given that constitutional disaster know as "McCain-Feingold...". Otherwise, he definitely is the lesser of two evils. But I can find no other party's candidates who are any better than these two. Even Bob Barr leaves me wondering.

I feel like Diogenes, looking in vain for an honest man.


BTW, Justyne - please show us where in the constitution or Bill of Rights that we have a "right" to vote!

Clay Cooper



Clay Cooper

Food for thought I'm still looking for historical statements

“A government establishment so profligate that it thinks nothing of throwing its best people onto bonfires of its own making will likely, over time, burn down to nothing.”
-Daniel Henninger, in the Wall Street Journal, 2007-Mar-15, “The Walter Reed Fiasco: The Army fired the one guy who can fix it.”

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
-John F. Kennedy, 1962

Clay Cooper

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
-President Woodrow Wilson

Cla Cooper

Forgive me Dave for tossing "RED MEAT"!

“But I don't want to defend myself.”
-reportedly uttered by a Brady Law supporter

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