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June 06, 2008

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Some Political Notes

Does anyone remember Martha Mitchell? She was the wife of John Mitchell, who was Attorney General under Richard Nixon and went to prison for his involvement in Watergate. As the coverup started to unravel, Martha would get a few drinks in her and start calling newspapers with all sorts of interesting stuff about who was lying about what, and it got so bad that her husband allegedly had her sedated and kept prisoner in a motel room.
Bill Clinton seems to be rapidly going out of control, and if Hillary becomes the nominee for Vice President,  we may see Secret Service agents tailing him with a hypodermic needle. What worked on Martha Mitchell may also quiet down Bubba. It's worth a try; nothing else has succeeded so far.

In 1992, Clinton's opponent for president was George H.W. Bush, who was viewed by a considerable number of gun supporters as too moderate, and they withheld their votes. This contributed to eight years of Clintons in the White House. John McCain has his weak spots as far as the Second Amendment is concerned, but he is infinitely better than Obama.

Now that Hillary has morphed into Annie Oakley it might be helpful to see what she thought before she became the Shooter's Best Pal:

"I will work to reinstate the assault weapons ban….I will also work to make sure that police departments get access to federal information that will enable them to track illegal guns…." 4/16/08

"I believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry…." 6/2/00

"[after Columbine] Bill and I announced a proposal to raise the legal age of handgun ownership to 21, and limit purchases of handguns to one a month."  11/1/03

And from Barack Obama:

"…I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right…" 4/16/08

"I think it is a scandal that this president [Bush] did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons bill." 10/21/04


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Steve S

Can someone on this blog, please answer this for me...?

Why does a city like NYC, which was actually struck by terrorism, vote overwhelmingly Democratic ?

If the people who lived the attacks first hand, are sick of Bush style policies, and want change, why is it that all of the yooperjacks of the world, who are probably far from any real target, feel the need to educate us about policy?

I walk by the WTC site everyday, and I sure as heck don't want 4 more years of the same policies...

Rocky Mtn Hunter

From the 2 running for Pres. neithe will do anything to help you and I. Neither can do l2 of what they promish, thats just talk. As someone suggeeted we need the Pres. and V-pres running seperate, as we do in my state for Governor and Let. Gov. THe Dark skinned man can and does talk smooth, says what everone wants to hear, McCain says same thingds as Bush did for 8 yrs, more of the same. If ever a country needed a shot in the arm it's the USA. Not teh same Bull S---- again for 4 more years or longer. Where is Truman----????? we need a few like him now.When you pay 6-7 bucks for gas in a few months, recall what Bush has done in the Middle east to make peace. He's not taking a world vacation at our expense but doing nothing to make peace with the middle east and the USA. This election is by far the worst in my lifetime @73, I've seen a few and some were ok, but this one will break the bank and your back. All due-respect, I do think we should get back to our pleasure, which is hunting and guns????? Any one agree?.

WA Mtnhunter

Steve S.

Here goes:

"Why does a city like NYC, which was actually struck by terrorism, vote overwhelmingly Democratic?"

Because it is filled with entitlement hungry liberals like every other major city in America.

"If the people who lived the attacks first hand, are sick of Bush style policies, and want change, why is it that all of the yooperjacks of the world, who are probably far from any real target, feel the need to educate us about policy?"

The Yoopers of the world live a sane life ouside of the crime centers and cesspools of our society and have a clarity of perspective, I suppose. It's not all about being a target.

"I walk by the WTC site everyday, and I sure as heck don't want 4 more years of the same policies..."

The WTC 9/11 attack was the second attempt by the Islamic terrorists to destroy a symbol of what they perceive as the satanic nation (us). the 9/11 attack occured less than 9 months after W took office. This plot had been in the making for years. Presumably these plots, along with several other attacks, were hatched during the illustrious years of the Clinton administration. The Democrats have paid little attention to the problem as well.

If you are tired of the status quo, you are certainly entitled to express your opinions and vote them. However, don't blame GWB for the Islamic extremist attacks. Check your facts. There have been damn fewer attacks on U.S. interests the past 8 years than the previous 8. Remember the USS Cole, our embassy in Kenya, Khobal Towers in Saudi Arabia, .....

If you are a liberal Democrat, then say something substantive about your candidate and how he is going to fix things. Stop blaming Bush as your campaign slogan. He is not running for re-election. If he were, I wouldn't vote for him either. As a Republican, he has disappointed me in many areas, too. Just call a spade a spade.


WA Mtnhunter:

Thank you for an excellent response to Steve S. The reality is that none of us are not going to change the minds of liberal Democrats no matter what we say. You would think the recent SC decision re Gitmo and "enemy combatants" (none of whom were in uniform, BTW) would at least give the libs a hint, but that's not going to happen either. GWB has been a disappointment to most of us, but as you said, he isn't running. Of the two guys who are, neither of whom I'm impressed with, I'm voting for McCain, and the primary reason is his ability to affect the makeup of the Supreme Court. It remains to be seen how this Court comes down on the DC/gun issue. As intuitively obvious as it would seem to most of us, the sad fact is that one SC Judge - Kennedy - will probably throw it one way or the other. It makes no sense to me, but what the hell do I know. I'm just sick and tired of liberal judges all over this great country who seem to feel they have the God-given right to interpret the US Constitution any way they see fit. And no matter what history says about GWB, his SC picks may turn out to be his greatest legacy.

WA Mtnhunter


A prime example is the liberal porno-judge in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in CA. The SC, federal, and state judges have been and are legislating from the bench. That needs to stop!

But I suppose if one is a left wing liberal, that is just fine. I will vote for the candidate that most closely reflects my values and world view. In 2008, it will not be the son of a Muslim and an atheist, who rails on his family about being racist and fails to salute the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance.

I didn't spend 22 years defending this nation and those since financing that defense to pi$$ my vote away on some candidate of "change" who makes no sense with any proposed change. We all can imagine who he would nominate for the Supremes. Maybe Rev Whatshisname?


Okay, I remember an incident that happened in NYC, on 9/11/01. For some reason, roughly 3,000 Americans died that day. A lot of us in "the sticks" were greatly moved by that horrible incident. We sent our sons and daughters to avenge that attack, and also to insure that it doesn't recur. For the most part, this endeavor has been successful.

Now we learn, from one of the candidates, that our retaliation, and steps toward prevention, were wrong. It should've been handled in the courts! About a month ago, I read an article on Huffington Post, an article, where a "journalist" interviewed Barack Obama. In this interview, Barack said that his first priority as POTUS will be to use Department of Justice. to investigate all aspects of the GWB war in SW Asia, and the war on terror. The goal of this investigation will be to prosecute everyone, involved in the decision to go to war, anyone involved in war crimes and anyone involed in illegal acts such as wiretapping. The suspects include, but are not limited to, President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, George Tenet and John Ashscoft.

For some reason, this interview got no airtime. Rush Limbaugh didn't mention it until last week. No one else said anything at all about it.

My son has a decision to make shortly. Should he reenlist, or get out. My thoughts right now are, if the people in urban areas cared about their security, they would voice their opinions, either at ballot boxes, or protests, or even letters to their editors. Any opinions they do have, appear to indicate that the are OK with that large hole in the ground. I told my son to reup for economic reasons, reup because you like the job, but don't reup because America needs you.

Jim in Mo.

Oh America needs him, its just a large percentage don't realize how much. BTW, my son pre-enlisted in Marines a week ago.

WA Mtnhunter


I had not heard of Obama's war prosecution statements you mentioned. I think the Huffington Post is as full of manure as Obama is.



I certainly agree that a "normal" person (you and I) wouldn't spend a lot of time at HP. I don't know why I was there! I just noted the bomb that was thrown, and waited for the MSM coverage. I was stunned by the silence! Obviously, they don't want this out in the public. As I said, the interviewer is somewhat widely known, and respected as a liberal jounalist. That's how he got the interview. BTW, I went back a couple of days after Tim Russert died. I was shocked at the responses posted there. While many were sincere expressions of condolence, many were also slams on his integrity and alleged collusion with the Bush Administration. A few were outright lies and unfounded character assassination. I was very disappointed. I would've thought that human beings would have more class.
P.S. Can you imagine the sight of Sec. Powell, in stripes and handcuffed, being arraigned? That will do wonders to unify this country!

Obama's sock puppet

Buy now while supplies are still available.

Rocky Mtn Hunter

I never missed a Sunday AM ( if was athome)watching Meet the Press. I feel as if Tim was by far the better News Anchor on the air so many years. To me he was down the middle. Cannot recall in him ever taking sides with Rep or Dems. I shall miss him this Sunday and all the Sundays I have left, plus his imput in the fall election. Rest in Peace Tim.

Jim in Mo.

I'm glad you said that.
If Tim R. interviewed a Dem. you would think he was Rep., if he interv. a Rep. you thought he was Dem. Good man.

Dr. Ralph

About as unbiased as a reporter can be... if he's a lifelong Democrat who has worked for Daniel Moynihan D NY, Mario Cuomo D NY, and met his wife at the 1976 Democratic convention. His son now hosts a radio show with James Carville the left wing attack dog. He was also the first to leak the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame according to Scooter Libby, and Russert never denied it... sad to think that this is as close to non-partisan as the Networks hire.

Jim in Mo.

I still think he was the best on the air today (er, recently).
PS., Scooter never impressed me much either. So who do you believe? JMO.

Rocky Mtn Hunter

We don;t realy need a President any longer. The Supreme Court has us by the balls and continue to squeze till we cry. Had it not been for them in 2000, we would not be in this mess we are today. To think that a 4-5 decision put GWB in the WH is beyond me. I sure hope who-ever wins this useless election in NOV. has the gall to select long term thinking Justices. Correct em if I am mistaken, but best I recall, NAFTA was begun under the first Bush???? however Clinton did sign the final bill, a bad mistake. But Clinton does not deserve all the blame for NAFTA. I am not the brains of you gys, but to me, if we are to allow other countries to import products to the USA, then those counties should have to export from the USA the same Dollar amount.I have never been so un-certain about the future of the USA as I am now. With the two poor choices we got to choose from, can anyone predict what either will do. Obama only says Change, (Change what and How) McCain says more of the same, we will be in Iraq for l00 yrs. The USA cannot afford to continue to spend 3 million dollars a Day in Iraq. AS for 911 Bush went after the wrong country, he should have called a spcial session of congress and then decided on whom to go after.In my book it would have been Sad/Araba. Belive l5 of those on the planes were from that country. We did what we set out to do I thought and that was to get rid of Hussein and Bin Laden. Well, we did l/2 the job and Afg. is in more turmoil today than on the onset. Bushes MIssion Accompolished banner on the Battle ship was a tad early.Yep, I',m a Dem but not for Obama,or his wife,she is a scary as he is, as she hates the USA.BAck to Tim R. We will all miss his imput thru-out this falls election and then afterwards on Sunday. I am pleased that Tom Brokaw will fill in on Meet the Press on Sunday till after Jan. 20th. This war in Iraq is breaking the USA, how much longer can we spend the amount of $$ and supplies as we are today. As for Oil, I do believe that BOOTLEggERS are buying lots of oil and storing till it gets even higher. I cannot believe we buring that much more oil than we did 2 yrs ago. As smart as the USA is, why cannot we come up with a alternate to gas for our needs. If we got the brains to ship men and equiptment to the Moon, surely somebody can find a replacement for gas. I recall in the 70's the Solar Panels were a hot #, has anyone looked into returning to those to help heat our homes and run our cars. I Live in the Country have lots of timber and have plenty of down wood, so will now begin to heat my home again with wood and a nice cozy fireplace. Sure will be glad when Hunting season begins, so can talk about my favorit subjects, GUNS AND HUNTING. As for Rocky Mtn hunts, at todays cost, I may have made my last trip West and just hunt w-tails and Coyotes here at home. AS my retirement funds continue to earn less each renewal and you sure cannot pay your bills on SS.Being disabled/handicapped, kinda hard to be a greeter at Wally-world. PS' Heard that Ford Motor Co was going to bring back the Fiesta small car. Guess what???? to be built in Mexico. Why not use the plants Ford has here in the US and let the Illegals work for the pay they earned in Mexico, then we all cold buy a litle car and save the gas and maybe our homes.

CB Jackson

Womans Day 19 Feb 02 p 26 in “Woman at the Wheel” by Jayne O’Donnell reported “It's a statistic no parent wants to hear: Cars are the leading cause of death from unintentional injury for children under 14”. Using the line or reasoning gun control folks use i.e. an inanimate object injured or killed someone, we then should get rid of those bad cars that are killing our children. People take driving education courses, are licensed to drive and the vehicle is also registered and licensed but still all this “registering” does not prevent injury. Good/proper use behavior using the inanimate object is critical. Bad behavior leads to injury good behavior prevents injury. Hundreds if not thousands of people are effected by car accidents but cars are not the easily attacked item as firearms are. What’s next? Taking away steak knives, baseball bats? I can easily injury/kill someone with a plastic or metal pen if after penetrating the eye, temple (head). Behavior is the key and as we well know “it’s not my fault” attitude is prevalent in our society. Someone or something else is to blame i.e. the no fault, entitlement lifestyle.


I just got back from the San Juan Islands and Seattle in Washington state. We're doomed!.... The militant socialists up there are on the rampage with the election so near and all. Someone needs to sit them all down and cool their jets by letting them in on the fact that the "R" party is really on their side on so many of the issues! It's just an election year and so all of the Mcains are out there throwing red meat to all of the sponges in the "R" base. The Mcains will all go back to being the socialist sympathizing gutless wonders they really are after the election! J.M. is a heck of a good guy, its just that if this is what we are going to hold up as White House material this time around, just imagine how low our standards will be next time! This should come as a surprise to no one...The "R" party's love affair with big government has become increasingly worse since Bush took office.
Time to join the Constitution party!.....Look into it!

Jim in Mo.

We need another Martha Mitchell right now with this loud mouth Biden guy.

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