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A Case of Straight Priorities

Here is a nice story. Glenrock Blue is a tiny gunshop cleverly hidden on a back street in the miniscule town of Glenrock, Wyoming. It's run by the husband-and-wife team of Phil and Di Filing. Phil handles the metalwork and Di does the stocks, and together they bring guns back from the dead. You bring in some old beater that looks like it fought and lost at Little Big Horn and they will have it looking better than it did when it left the factory.

Anyway, I was there a few weeks ago and Phil handed me a Model 54 Winchester bolt-action .30/06. The serial number was 90-something, which meant it had been made in the late 1920s. It was in fine shape, except for some rust at the muzzle and on the front sight ramp, and it still had an ancient 2.5X Weaver scope mounted right down on the receiver, ahead of the bolt.

The owner wanted the rust polished out and the barrel reblued, which would just about ruin the gun for a collector (As it was, it would bring $1,500 or so from someone who wanted it bad enough.), and Phil told him so.

"I know," said the owner, "but my father gave it to me 50 years ago, and it was in perfect shape, and I want to give it to my son in the same condition."

Now there, I think, is a man with his values as they should be.

If you're interested Glenrock Blue, the phone is 307-436-2330; gunbluing.com. Be advised, however, that they don't turn guns around overnight. They are famous among shooters of taste and culture, and they have a lot of guns to work on.

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Dave in St Pete

To The gentleman needing the sight help.

If you're too low then you need to either raise the rear sight OR lower the front sight.

If you have been filing the rear sight you have been working against yourself.

Dave in St Pete

Rocky,

It seems to me that sliding the front sight as far forward as possible would also effect a rise in the shot placement.

Ken

I had Phil reblue a Winchester Model 100 carbine for me a few years back. I had bought it through a online gunsite and it came as a real beater. The seller wouldn't take it back and it was in terrible shape.

It came back and looked like it had just left New Haven, CT. He hadn't buffed off any of the stampings and all the printing looked like it had just been removed from the jig!

Excellent job, he is well recomended!

As far as old guns handed down, I still have my Great Grandfathers smoothbore musket in .58 cal, my Grandfather's english double 12 ga. with hammers and damascus barrels. It comes complete with the lumps and bumps in the barrels from making homemade buckshot with low brass black power shotshells and replacing the fine shot with steel ball bearings. All during the depression when things for my family was real trying and venison from our apple orchard was apparently a welcome main course. I even have Dad's old Iver Johnson 12 ga. single barrel that has the stock wired together and was painted red,white and blue after he returned from WW II. He had nick named it the "freedon gun" and it accounted for a great many rabbits and pheasants that I carried for him in a cut off burlap bag fixed with a piece of clothesline for my shoulder.

These will all be handed down to my sons one day and I hope they respect their value, not in dollars but in memories,as much as I do.

Rocky Mtn Hunter

Dave in St Pete: The front sight canot be adjusted. The sigh is machine/hand made and slides in the rib. Top of front sight which is about 3/8 tall has a gold bead facing the shooter.No adjustments can be made, as the slide in site is flush with muzzle of bbl. I need to get back to the range and take some tape and colored toothpicks and tape to sights and see which way I need to go with the rear sight or raise theo front. I;m so confused at the moment, kinda forgot if shoting low or high. But was told if shoting to low to lower the rear sigh????, and do believe thats the problem.Has been couple years since i shot this firearm and really forgot which is doing, high or low.But with 2 leaf sighs on rear, you would think one is say l00 yds and the taller leaf is for 200 yds, right> or visa veresa. But again, no way to adjust the front unless have it built up with more metal, etc.brass?Plan on Sunday to shoot my B/P rifle and will take this Custom job and try again, then will get back to you guys for some answers that i will write down or look at targets when I tell you about the hits.Dave on one screen I gave you the info on the dble rifle,check them out to find. We got so many Blogs going now, forget which one is which. Also, on the Winchester 70, I was told that the 70 would be made in Japan, Not in S>C>.Are all sure the 70 will be built again in the USA? If so at the prices I read earlier,doubt the doors will be broken down to purchase.But all firearms have gone up a lot in past yr,especially quality Ammo as well. Thanks for teh help.

Dave in St Pete

Rocky,

Trust me on this one.

What ever way you need the bullet to go move the REAR sight in that direction. Example: gun shoots too far RIGHT so I need the bullet to go more LEFT so I move the REAR sight to the LEFT.

So If your gun shoots too LOW then the bullet needs to go UP so you RAISE the REAR sight.

If you need to move or change the FRONT sight you do the opposite of what the bullet needs to do. So if you gun shoots LOW then you need the bullet to go UP so you LOWER the FRONT sight.

OK? Not trying to be a jerk I just want to make it clear for ya.

Recap, Move REAR sight the SAME way you need the bullet to go.

Move the FRONT sight the OPPOSITE way you need the bullet to go.

clark mcdonough

Clay,
That's too bad. Sadly, locally owned buisnesses in AZ are getting to be things of the past. I remember several mounts being displayed there at Jenson's that either the owner or his family had bagged. There was this really great full body cougar mount that was just spectacular.

jstreet

Here's a link for browning's new x-bolt rifle (if anyone is interested).

Jim
http://www.golfbusinesswire.com/shooting_wire_release.html?releaseID=122668

jstreet

Here's a link for browning's new x-bolt rifle (if anyone is interested).

Jim
http://www.golfbusinesswire.com/shooting_wire_release.html?releaseID=122668

jstreet

Here's a link for the Winchester model 70 (if anyone is interested).
Jim

http://www.golfbusinesswire.com/shooting_wire_release.html?releaseID=122665

Bubba

I'm sitting here this morning, sipping coffee, listening to an old pal snoring on the guest bed behind me.

He came up to hunt the fall ML season just like in the past three years. He's a gunsmith, of sorts. When he got out of his truck, he handed me a soft gun case and said, "This is for you." with kind of a gleam in his eye.

In 1973, he introduced me to black powder. That spring, we went to Carter's Country in Spring, Texas. He helped me select and outfit my first black powder rifle. A T/C Hawken in .50 with brass hardware. Seeing a set of T/C sights I liked, he and I later added a globe front sight and a Vernier tang sight. I would only shoot 120 gr. powder charges, thought anything less wasn't worth it. It soon grew a crack in the wrist of the stock. I reduced to 90 grs.

Then life kicked in....

Twenty years later, I stumbled into my ol' buddy. Sitting in the corner of my garage was the T/C Hawken. A pile of rust, the victim of neglect, indifference, (it really wasn't a rifle!) and raising a family. "Whatcha gonna do with that?" he asked.
"Well, I can't remember if I cleaned it the last time I shot it. Seems I just blew it full of WD 40 and went on. I really don't have time to mess with it any more. Take it!" I replied.

That was 1998. On 10/24/07, my T/C Hawken and I were reunited. He had gloriously returned it to all it's radiant glory! He and I sat up and talked 'til midnight, dredging up old memories of the Keechi Creek bottom. Rekindling the flames of a thousand camp fires! Sometimes, a little touch up is necessary to rekindle life. Sometimes, that touch up is no more that the touch of care!

Bubba

drice

When my grandfather died several years ago, I, being the only grandson ended up with his guns which included an Eastern Arms .410 that more than likely came from a Sears or Montgomery Ward catalog. The .410 is of almost no interest to a collector but I wouldn't sell it for any amount of money. Being able to take it squirrel hunting with my son, knowing that at least one of my ancestors used it to put food on the table makes it priceless to me. The idea that someone out in the country where they virtually never made it to town ordered it through the catalog and then waited for it to come in the mail just makes the gun's story that much more interesting to me.

Dave in St Pete

Bubba,

That as you know, is a good friend. Are you going hunting with him and the Hawkins?

Dr. Ralph

Yeah, ugly rubber butt pad or not, there's something very special about watching your son hunt with a shotgun your grandfather hunted with ninety years ago.

Bubba

Dave in St Pete

In the neighborhood of 6:30AM on the morning of 10-27-07; we'll be set up in the Whiskey Creek bottom here in the Great Southwest!! I've been running feeders since early Sept.

All the brown, pointy-toed critters with flippy white tails had best be on their best behavior! All feral hogs have been duly warned!!!

Bubba

Dave in St Pete

Bubba,

Here's to a few BBD and BHD my friend.

John Edley

My uncle Ed had an old lever action rifle in his utility shed. The rifle had been in a house fire years ago and most of the stock was gone. The entire rifle was a black hunk of carbon and I remember as a child that it seemed to weigh more than me. Later in life I became interested in firearms and I asked my uncle if I could have the old gun. He told me that it had been in the family for a long time and that I could have it when he died. My Uncle Ed was larger than life and I thought he would live forever, but his heart gave out and he did pass away. I was in the Navy at the time, instructing new aviators in Meridian, MS a couple of hours north of my uncle's home. After the funeral my cousin gave the rifle to me and told me that his dad wanted it that way.
Turns out the rifle is an 1866 Winchester, manufactured in 1870. I fitted a replacement stock and draw filed the bbl, had all the metal re-blued and replaced a lot of screws. The original cleaning rod was still in the buttstock. I bought adapter cartridges from Dixie and on a fine fall day that old rifle spoke again accompanied by a lot of blue smoke and noise. The records for the year of manufacture are unavailable from the Winchester archives in Cody, but family history puts the rifle in our family at least prior to the Great Depression and probably well before that. I'm glad I resored this old rifle and agree totally with Dave and the Model 54 owner.

Clay Cooper

clark mcdonough, Jensens Sporting goods was the shop that customized the rifle for me when I was 12, 40 years ago. An 03-A3 and still has plenty of cloverleaf’s in it. They say the closer the bullet is to the lands in the barrel, the more accurate it is. This defies that theory when shooting Speer and Hornady 100 grain bullets and the action is so smooth and so sweat! Jenens sure has made a good name for themselves and I hope that 2nd Amendment Sports that bought them out will continue their legacy.

Tommy

The only gun I ever parted with was a Mossberg 12 gauge I had for alot of years. Not as long as some of the gents here, but anyways - it went to younger brother Joey. KEEP THE GUNS IN THE FAMILY.

Tommy

Oh, and the only reason I parted with it was because I really liked the new camo Mossberg ulti-mag, turkey-gun.

I know, not a $2,500 gun nut gun, but I like it, and it was a great excuse to give my younger bro his first firearm; at freaking 31.

Ralph the Rifleman

Hey Tommy-
Mossberg makes fine shootin`guns for the money, and you did the right thing-Kept the gun in the family!

Tommy

Thanks Ralph,

I am thinking of a slug barrel to have an extra deer gun too. Should I go rifled?

Any suggestions?

Keeping in mind that I am on a budget. The last gun show I went to at The raleigh fairgrounds got me a quote of $200 for just the barrel!

Is that a good price?

John

Is it true about the model 70?

Mike Diehl

I think a serviceable firearm should be maintained in good operable condition. A firearm wants to be hunted. Was I to suddenly stumble across some fancy English double with a home-mortgage sized collector value I'd have to hunt with it or sell it.

When I get too old for hunting all my firearms will be turned over to my son in good operating condition. Reblued and restocked if necessary.

PDKMF

Keep your guns! When I was in my late teens I bought a used Browning Auto 12 gauge. It was in gorgeous condition. Hunted and shot clay pigeons with it for a couple of years before selling it off to buy a pretty pump gun. It was too heavy to carry all day you see... Still have the pump gun but sure miss the Borwning. And, of course, it was made in Belgium. Grrr.

Brian T

None of the sons of a 92 yr-old, homestead rancher wanted a Weaver K4 scope that was in Ike's effects when he went to the "Big Ranch." I had it mounted on a Savage .22cal w/ Accutrigger for smallbore silhouette. Think of him with great respect every time I shoot.




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