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The Worst Guns of All Time

I guess this was inevitable, and I’d like to thank the fellow blogger who suggested it. Here are the rules:

1. No profanity.
2. Only one nomination.
3. It has to be a gun that you had personal experience with, not something you heard about.
4. Keep your comments brief.

Go to it.

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Joseph Boes

This is more of an experience than the gun. My grandfather letting mee shot a ten gauge browning when I was 9. What a wallop.

Andy

My Springfield .45 "Micro Compact". I bought it for around 800 bucks (breaking my wallet) for a CCW. After cramming/forcing 1000 rounds through it, I considered it a "Derringer" It would fire the round in the chamber, but couldn't be depended on for anything else. Failed to feed, failed to extract, failed everywhere in-between. I figured I'd get one shot in self-defense, and then I'd have to bludgeon my attacker with it. I should have sent it back to Springfield, but I was so disgusted I dumped it at a loss and picked up a Colt Defender. I'll never buy a Springfield, ANY-thing again.

paul

m1 carabine fun 2 shoot terribly inaccuate like shooting a golf club wimpy reciol no power I put the sights right on a rabbit 5 yards away and missed by four feet

Brent

remington 522 viper. melted after a days target shoot. just a pile of waist now.

Jay

Worst gun I have ever owned, and Im suprised that no one else has mention it, was a davis p380. It was given to me by my dad as a nightstand weapon when I moved out. Similar to a lorcin, this gun was poorly designed and very cheaply made. It felt and looked like a square chunk of chrome and plastic. When fired the slide would always hit my thumb and leave it skinned and sore. It seldom would fire more than 2 rounds before it would jam, and accuracy was poor..even for a .380. One day at the range, after about 10 rounds or so, the firing pin broke. Luckily I had the owners manual which had a parts order form in the back...so I ordered a firing pin...and a new sear, recoil spring, and a new clip for good measure. Installing these parts was simple and the gun cycled fine afterwards....for about 50 rounds...then the extractor pin broke. I was unable to get this part from davis b/c they had went out of business or something at this point...and my order requests were returned to me unopened. So I gave this now useless hunk of chromed pot metal back to my dad. I would rather just keep my louisville slugger beside my bed than this piece of junk. At least I know the louie will hit what I point it at...

Rick Johnson

Owned a lot of semi-auto's and never had any jamming problems. But my lever action 44 mag Marlin gave a new meaning to the word. Flat nosed ammo didn't make for easy feeding. Had a Firestar 9mm that ate firing pins, no gunsmith ever figured out why. But my worst gun of all time was a BLR 308. Had a rack an pinion mechanisim which would go out when a cartridge jammed. Hard to dismantle and clean. Had a scope that extended past hammer that split my forehead several times because of the light weight of the weapon and the excessive recoil. I hated that gun. Have a BLR 22 that's the cat's meow. Dropped 2 rabbits at 100 yards with 2 rounds. Also a BAR 30-06 that groups less than 3" at 200 yds.

Todd

Marlin Model 90

I happen to love my Marlin Model 90!! I saw Kevin's complaint that it gave him a sore finger??? Hey Kevin....Dasiy make some real nice models you should check out. These shotguns are made for MEN.

Erick Quintero

Walters G22, 22LR. This small and slick looking rifle is the least reliable, least accurate, hardest to field strip and cleans, and the one with the most moving parts which are easily lost (including magazine spring and trigger return). The sights are way higher than the barrel and have no adjustments.

Mark G

Thanks to all who gave WARNING about Remington Model 597. I prefer Ruger 10/22, and will purhcase that at the higher cost. The famous Bass Pro (I don't like their high to the sky gun prices) has the bottom end of the Model 597 on sale for the turkey holiday. But, with the jam-o-matic feature, I think all the freebies they are throwing in (scope and gun case) are to sweeten the deal for a gun that just doesn't seem to perform. Bottom line is YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR and YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET! Thanks for stopping the purchase of a bad performer!

Dan

I wish I had done my research before buying my first gun 3 years ago. I turned 18, and bought a 597 that day. I figured a good company could make a good gun and I couldn't go wrong with a simple design of a rimfire .22. I've tried multiple fixes for the magazine problem, but it is just a crappy design. I'm waiting to see how http://www.eagle-international-direct.com/product_info.php?products_id=65
does...

Ed

Have to agree with Remington 700ML comments, but IMHO the worthless, lightweight synthetic stock is the problem. I wounded a 6x6 bull at 50 yards with mine and had a bow hunter finish it off when it ran away. Missed my point of aim by 12"- really hacked me. I didn't give up though- sent it back to Remington and had it rebarreled from 22" .54 to 26" .50, restocked in wood (even pillar bedded it) and now it shoots 1"-2" groups off bench with T7 and PB bullets. Have made 2 one-shot bull kills with it since. There is hope if that stock is discarded/modified.

Victum

Without a doubt the worst ever was a Winchester 250 lever action. This was the first firearm I bought. It had an aluminum receiver and the movement of the bolt would peen the inside until it would start to break off chunks of metal. Sent it back to Winchester once and when it came back it worked for a while then the process repeated. Sold it for $15 to a friend who surely knew what he was buying as the rifle was in pieces in a 5 gallon plastic bucket.

DAVE

I have had many different types of pistols and revolvers over the years and never had any problems until I bought a new AMT 1911 style.45 pistol it was reliable as it would sometimes fire the entire mag with one touch of the trigger.it printed five inces left and six to eight inces low at twenty yards depending on ammo it was very sloppy in fit and finish it did look good being cast stainless.it had features similar to a gold cup but without the quality this was the early 90s when my local wal-mart sold handguns it was an easy matter of returning it with receipt of course wal-marts satisfaction guaranteed was alive and well at that time.

Paul Kostura

I was so discouraged with my Remington 597 in 22 LR, I considered cutting it up with a band saw and sending it back to Remington. I put it away for 1 year and took it out again to the shooting range. It is pitiful ! Does Remington ever let their employees test these rifles for a weekend? I’m sure the employees would revolt and stop the sale of these rifles. It is ruining the reputation of Remington . I’m sure a bunch of 14 year old boys are appropriately learning to use bad words “%$#@$ Remington” The Rifle is bad but the magazines are the worst,,,, JAM JAM JAM.

Damien D.

I hate feeling like a sucker. That's why I'm sad that I bought the Remington 597 .22 LR.

Junius

A Remington POS Model 7 SS in 7mm-08 has to be the worst rifle I ever bought. Sucker wouldn't shoot better than 2 1/2" 3 shot groups at 100 yds - regardless of ammo. I got the typical BS from Remington's local dealer in northeast GA on what is acceptable accuracy. I unloaded it at a loss and never bought from the dealer again.

Jack Bohm

My candidates at the moment-

Winchester Model 190 .22 Its a Jam-o-matic from heck. Its fails to feed, stovpipes a lot, and has been known to fail to fire even when a cartridge feeds properly.

Remington 597- similar problems, especially feeding- the one I owned could not take more than about 5 cartridges in a supposed 10 round clip. I tried 2 clips and then got rid of the thing in favor of a wonderful Ruger K10/22-22 which is flawless.

The Browning BPS Stalker- the Hunter versions are good but the Stalker I had - a 30 Inch barrelled- version was much too heavy and didn't handle worth beans.

Matt Garrison

OK, Another Remington 597 .22 LR owner. Mine was okay with federal ammunition. HOWEVER, I unfortunately purchased like 10 brands of ammo for it and they all jammed because I was trying to improve on its accuracy. GRRR!!!! But then I discovered the secret (at least to mine anyway) it has to be "oily" on the inside for it to behave.

If you still have it and hate it, try this. If your thinking of buying it, shame on you, the Ruger 10/22 is better, I know it doesn't feel as good, but your going to put a scope on it anyway, and that changes the equation.

Step 1 - Remove trigger assembly with that one pin holding it together thing. (It's not hard to do).

Step 2 - Get some of that Wal*Mart Break Free CLP cleaner Lubricant Preservative or the Hopps stuff and soak that and the receiver. Don't dry it, don't wipe it. Just wipe up the black puddle underneath.

Step 3 - Reassemble your sloppy wet 597 gun.

Step 4 - Lock and Load, no more jams. Its like you have to "LUBE" the clips too with that stuff. And when I say lube, LUBE.

1 can = 3-4 cleanings.

Sorry, but it is my first gun and I'm so disappointed. Remington... I have like put like 1000 rounds through it. Non-federal ammo, like remington would jam 2 out of 10 times.

But wait, cheap ammo = bad results? NO NO NO. I Bought expensive stuff and guess what.

1 shot, 1 jam, and the bullet was bent. So 1 clip = 5 bullets fired, 5 bullets bent.

Being my first gun, I considered it normal, BUT after being shown the 10/22 from Ruger... Education has a price.

And from what I have heard, that 30 round clip is not happening, because your jammomatic 597 + 30 round eagle clip = assault rifle.

Whatever. :(

Charshooter

The worst rifle I owned was a 1968 model 70 Winchester! I had and still have a 1951 model 70 with a 24” barrel and I purchased the 68 model when I began to worry my older one might begin to show barrel throat wear. Both were in 270 cal and I swear the older model averaged about 100 fps faster with the same ammunition. Second, the 68 model was sloppy and it was never very accurate. I sold it off a few years later.

The biggest gun sale mistake I made was Selling a Remington model 721 270 cal with a 24” tube; it shot perfect and had a nice tight action, what a mistake! I purchased a used Remington model 700 in 7mm Mag. and was never disappointed; that began my fancy with Remingtons.

Some years later, I bought a little modern style Winchester featherweight in 243 win and it had a fair action, but never shot consistently under 2” at 100yd. In the mid 1990s, I purchased a Winchester model 70 featherweight classic action with a boss. That gun shot fair, but the noise was so excessive, I could not stand to hunt with it; I hate recoil breaks, they are loud and look ugly. The little gun was a nice caliber 7mm-08, but being Simi satisfactory, I sold it last year. I am sorry Winchester went out of business, but after my luck with their post 64 products and all those silly cartridges they came up with in the last few years, the company going belly up just had me shaking my head.

I have had best luck with Remington model 700s and the Browning A-bolt in most calibers. Has anyone else found the Remington’s usually better than the post-64 Winchesters? I like Browning also, especially in short action rounds. I wonder about Ruger, I had come across a few, but have not actually shot on hunted with any other than the 10-22 and the Blackhawk, which are both fine guns. I would think a Ruger 77 Mark II International in 308 would nice.

Anyone have a favorite make and model for 308, 7mm-08, or 260Rem?

Sean Stacy

Lorcin .25. It would fire the chambered round, but after that it was 50/50. tried new mags, new springs, different cleaning methods, etc.

Lawdog

Hard to believe but I brought a Winchester model 70 in 243 WSSM and it is the worst gun I have ever shot. It will not group with any ammo. I can work at shooting it and think I am starting to get it to stay on the target and then the next time out it starts all over again. I have bought the premium ammo that cost $35.00 a box and I have reloaded. That is another problem because the brass is always expanding and you have to trim and force the shoulders down or it will jam the bolt. Six months of this and I traded it for a Ruger M77 223 and have the best little rifle in the world. I can go to sleep at night not thinking I can’t shoot.

Henry Carlile

Worst gun: a Jennings .25 auto a friend gave me. It jams unless you oil the bullets before you load them in the clip. Second worst: a model 97 Winchester 12 ga. pump with a shortened barrel and polychoke that scattered pellets so widely you couldn't hit a sitting duck at twenty yards. Third worst: a .300 Savage lever action that shot 12 inch groups at 100 yards until I took the forearm off and shaved down a high spot. After that, it shot 1 inch groups at 100 yards. Fourth worst: a 1903 Springfield custom sporter. Its Timney adjust. trigger caused serious misfires.

Hobgoblin

maadi AK--mangled bullets while feeding them (sold it without ever firing it)

finnish mosin nagant- have to beat the bolt open after every shot

italian carcano carbine- a single box of 20 rnds 6.5 cost almost as much as the rifle did, sold it to a freind and felt guilty later

Bubba

Believe it or not but a '70's Colt AR15.... Well that and a browning patent savage arms 12 gauge.... I never hit anything w/it because it went auto after the first shell

Bubba

Believe it or not but a '70's Colt AR15.... Well that and a browning patent savage arms 12 gauge.... We called the it duck gun; that is everyone
said duck when it fired because it went auto after the first shell.




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