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The Worst Guns of All Time

I guess this was inevitable, and I’d like to thank the fellow blogger who suggested it. Here are the rules:

1. No profanity.
2. Only one nomination.
3. It has to be a gun that you had personal experience with, not something you heard about.
4. Keep your comments brief.

Go to it.

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ken baudoin

j. p. higgins 16 gauge bolt action. what a pieace of crap!

Nikko Golden Eagle in 7MM Mag. BEAUTIFUL gun from the 70's in fancy walnut and poloshed steel, but that hammer forged barrel was so light, and the bolt had REAR lugs, that it never put two bullets in the same county, even after bedding it. Sold that sucker, someone purchased it for its looks, which is why I purchased it when I was a kid.

Robert D Keith

Got a big chuckle out of Mark's complaint re: Marlin Goose Gun.
Doesn't the poor beknighted soul possess a pipe cutter, drill and tap, and a tiny bit of imagination?

Jeff Nelson

First generation Browning A-Bolt Medallion (LH) in .300 Win Mag. The gun shot well, but it was difficult to load the magazine thru the ejection port bare-handed, and impossible wearing gloves. If the mag was removed by dropping the floorplate, it was a real trick to get it lined up right in order to close the F.P. The trigger was mushy, creepy, and couldn't be adjusted. The safety operated off a wire spring that broke twice. Aesthetically, the gun was a disaster. The bolt handle, knob, and bolt shroud were terminally ugly, the forend on the stock was too short, and the recoil pad was made out of an old solid rubber tricycle tire! I finally got fed up, sold it, and built another .300 WM on a LH Remington 700 action.

Michael

Ruger P89 that I was forced to carry. Woefully inaccurate. Wouldn't shoot 4" at 15 yards, even in a vise. Armorer couldn't make it shoot decent. Two gunsmiths shook their heads. 3 others with P89s had similar problems but we also had a few that would REALLY shoot. Go figure. Left the job and the gun behind, friend got stuck with it. It went back twice to Ruger and they finally just replaced it (at least they did that).

James Degges

Stevens Model 887 by Savage Arms, 22LR Semi-Auto: This gun is not only unreliable but dangerous. When it's not jammed up it fires multiple rounds 2-3 at a time & sometimes the bottom of the casings are torn open at the bottom. I wouldn't give this gun away much less try to sell it for fear of somebody getting hurt, or worse! The scope that came with is about all that is salvagable.

LYLE

I FEEL SORRY FOR MARK AND THE MARLINE GOOSE GUN, I WISH I HAD ONE AGAIN AND YOU HAD A BETTER ONE. THE WORST GUN I'VE OWNED QAS A WINCHESTER 57. IT NEVER SHOT OVER TWO SHOTS TILL IT JAMED.

Don Gordon

Having worked in the gun industry for 20 years I have seen an occassional "lemon" show up in a popular and well respected model. Even among the best guns, you will get a dog now and then, However my list of worst guns have proven themselves over and over again in being able to ruin hunts and cause their owner's heartache.

1. Remington 522 Viper, the predecessor to the 597. If 597 owners think they have jam problems, the 522 was 10x worse. The gun shop I worked at saw customer returns over 70%: We returned those, along with our entire inventory to Remington.

2. Early Browning ABolt Stalkers- they had some type of hardwood that was painted with black textured paint. Browning rushed the Stalker to market so they had something to compete against the first Rynite stocked Remingtons (another terrible stock).

3. Browning A500- These were so bad, that we fashioned a "paddle choke" from a old broken canoe paddle and an Investor choke-we then gave it to our Browning sales Rep as a suggestion that they convert their shotguns to oars.

4. Charter arms AR-7's .22's.; These were sold as a survival gun but they were actually a single shot automatic.

5. Ithaca 10 ga semi auto- Major problems with bolts, linkages, expensive bolt anchor.

6. Any Weatherby semi-auto- either .22 or shotgun.

Designing and producing a quality semi-auto takes engineering and execution, something that the 5 on my listlacked entirely.


Gary

Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 223. Beautiful rifle, handled like an 18 year old girl at the senior prom, trigger was per-fect and the action functioned flawlessly. However, the ROT was 1 in 17 and it would not stabalize anything. With any brand of ammo and with any hand load I could cook up, it shot constant keyholes, chuckholes, doughnutholes and all kinds of holes from 50 yards on out. 1 x17 ROT for a .223? Who would have thunk it? I learned a hard lesson on that purchase!

Joseph Pantella

The worst gun of all time was a Ruger Vaquero in 45 colt. The pistol shot once flawlessly and that was it every time I would pull the hammer back and squeeze the trigger the hammer transfer plate would hook onto the bottom of the firing pin and I could not cock the hammer. The design was very poor.

Dennis Leveille

I traded for a Sears JC Higgins pump 12 ga. shotgun with a twist adjustable choke. I believe it was a High Standard made gun. Worked all the time,but I could never hit any thing with it. I put a can on a fence post and missed. I cut the barrel to 22" and had a 1 1/2X scope mounted so I could use it for deer. Could not hit anything with slugs. I never killed any game with that gun.

Chet Post

After reading the above, I realize how lucky I've been. But I gotta put in a bad word for the original Ruger 44 Mag semi auto carbine. Fun to shoot, unless you plan to hit something.

Gabe Gibbons

Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle in .223, the most inaccurate thing I have ever owned! I ordered a brand new stainless/synthetic version hoping to have the "Ultimate Truck Rifle", sadly I couldn't hit anything past 25 yrds! It cycled flawlessly with anything I put through it,but no matter what I tried(3 scopes, open sights,sent it back to Ruger,untold amounts of powder and bullets) I never could get any accuracy period. After some more research, I belive many people have had the same experience. I traded it for unbeliveably reliable/accurate Olympic Arms AR-15. I would also like to mention anything built for WSSM calibers(too many bad stories and experiences to list here!).

gone ballistic

I have a tie for the worst gun I've ever owned or shot.

1st is a Ruger Mini-14. It fired fine and looked cool but was Sooo inaccurate. I couldn't hit a watermelon or 2Liter bottle at 50 yards reliably. It threw patterns, not groups. It was a POS and I'd never buy another just based on it's inaccuracy. Several people I've spoken with reported this same lack of accuracy.

2nd was an intratec tech-9. I got one as a gift from a friend for getting him a job. I loved this guy cause it caused liberals to wet their pants. It threw fear into the heart of any lefty who saw it or knew I had it.
Unfortunately it was a Jam-O-matic . I could not get more then 10 or 11 shots out of it before I'd get a FTF. I cleaned, I lubed, I monkeyed, nothing. Still jam-o-matic.

I eventually unloaded it and it's plethora of mags on someone who was so desperate for a mean looking gun that he bought it despite repeated warnings it was a jam-0-matic. It was just post THE ban and he was desperate.

Those have got to be the two worst guns ever.

JH

WORST GUN HAS TO BE MY BROWNING BAR IN 300 WIN MAG. MY WIFE GAVE THIS TO ME FOR CHRISTMAS AND THIS IS THE ONLY REASON I STILL HAVE IT. FROM DAY ONE THE RIFLE WAS THE MOST IN-ACCURATE PIECE OF JUNK I HAVE EVER FIRED. TRIED SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCOPES AND MOUNTS AND NOTHING CHANGED. AT 200 YARDS YOU MAY HIT A 4 FOOT SQUARE TARGER AND YOU MAY NOT. THIS WAS FROM A SHOOTING REST. I OWN SEVERAL OTHER BROWNING A-BOLTS AND HAVE NOTHING BUT PRAISE FOR THEM.

TC

I've owned 3 Llama pistols: a .22, a .380, and a .38 Super. Every one was a pig and a half that required gunsmith attention due to poor design and worse materials. I sold all of them without regret to people who didn't know better. The next Llama I own will be the kind that has wool and eats grass.

JD

Maadi AK-47. The front sight was canted so badly that the gun couldn't be zeroed even at 25 yards. The metal was finished in Flayk-Off® brand enamel. The wood was slathered with a varnish that, judgeing from the smell, was based principally on boiled camel urine. Every screw head came pre-buggered from the factory. One was treated to painful trigger slap on every shot. Mechanical accuracy was abysmal...6 to 12 inch groups at 100 yards with various types of surplus and commercial 7.62 x 39 ammo. I sank a bunch of time and money into it and eventually ended up with something that looked much like a faux Valmet. It was still a piece of crap. Sold it to a guy who wanted, but couldn't afford, a real Valmet. I warned him, but he felt he had to have it.

Joe

Worst gun I had was a Ruger Single Six. The cylinder pin required "mechanical help" to be removed. At 25 yards, it would shoot two feet low of point of aim. I shot two other Single Sixes that were fantastic, but that one didn't stay in my cabinent...

Eric Burt

I'd also have to say the Smith & Wesson model 459 in 9mm. Mechanically, the gun was great, never giving me feeding problems. What i didn't like was the fact that you could put a target 20 feet away and you'd hit everthing on that target except what you're aiming at.

Pete Gray

I bought a Glock 30 when they first came out, what a dream,.45 ACP, small, light...I was all awash with hope. Short lived as it was,400 rounds of various ammo later it would never print under 10 inches at 15 yards.It had a trigger that felt like a 1/2 inch of rubberized foam. I sold it to a guy who had to have it beside my warning and it never was any good. I never owned a "Block" after that, I could just never get over it. I have a Springfield XD-9 now that will put the whole mag in 3" at 20 yards all day, and the trigger feels like a real gun.

Daryl Eason

The worse gun I own is an old junk gun named "RG-10" a DA/SA revolver chambered for .22LR. A guy gave it to me out of gratitude for helping him out when he was low on cash. It's made out of plastic and pot metal. Worth maybe 12 bucks if the person will buy it sight unseen. And to think, that was the weapon of choice for Hinkley...but he was "mentally ill" so I guess that explains it. It's truely an embarrassment of a firearm, but I will say this, it's simple and it's worked the few times I've shot it. Inaccurate, but never made to hit anything further than six foot away.

Roger E. Reeves

I've head a lot of Auto (Jamomatics) over the years. I have owned a Rem 742 Auto in 30-06. since they came out. Gun has never jammed the first time. Could be the ammo I use, which is Remington's. This gun has a Bushnell scope mounted with Weaver mounts,and will punch the bull eye ,size of a silver dollar 4 our of 5 shots, with the 5th shot within a inch of the other 4. I;ve killed Elk at 265 yds, Mule deer at l90yds, and too many whietails to count. I retired the 742 2 ys ago, and bought a Remington 700 CDL in 30-06 for my this fall;s Elk, Mule Deer hunt using l80 gr. Scricco ammo.I think the problem with the Browning BAr Auto;s in 300 Win Mag is the Allum action, it is not satron enough for that ammo, and will get allent out of shape with continous shooting at the Bench or Game, if moe than l shot requied.Lemons are to be found in all makes and models. If you have a firearm that shoots where you place the hairs, be thankful, and by all means hold on to it. Theses WSMs are a fly in the pie, wan;t be around long, our old faithful's will return, just ask any dealer about his sales of the 30-06 and 223's.

Carl Scaturo

Winchester Model 1400, 12 ga.. Never could get more than one shot, kept jamming. Brought it to a gunsmith who tried to fix it with no luck. It was as close to a piece of junk that I've owned.

Jeffrey Wolski

In regards to Marks posting 5/17 about the 36" Marlin Goose Gun. When My father finally handed out his firearms out to his boys.The first gun that was offered to me was that gun. Now I would never refuse a free firearm especially one given to me by my father but to this day I still remember as kid how I dreaded using that thing when we went goose hunting.My younger brother happily accepted it. Some years later a strange and no so great moment happened in his life. Someone broken to his house and stole his firearms.Except for that mother of a shotgun. Guess they felt the same way I did about that gun. Oh! If your wondering what my response was to my father when he offered me that gun? I told him the only way I would accept that gun would be If I could use it as crowbar.

Rob Lytle.

Interesting threads. The worst gun I own is an Enfield Mark 2* that my Dad had since coming back from the navy after WWII/. I don't think you could hit the ground with it pointing straight down if you are further more than 10 feet away. I alwasy swore (at it) that it was designed to take a few guys with you AFTER they overran the trench....Once, my nephew was shooting it and the damned thing went off while starting to open it to unload it....I keep it just because it was Dad's....




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