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Overpopulated Whitetails, Come On Down!
A suburban couple in a well-to-do neighborhood near here got fed up with deer destroying their flowers and bushes. John and Carmela Peterson tried deterrents, even considered a fence, but decided getting the required variance might be slow and expensive. The county verified the extent of the damage and recommended hunting, in part because the local deer herd is at or beyond the land’s carrying capacity. Now holding a damage control permit, the Petersons invited a licensed bowhunter in. They had every reason to believe they had hit upon a way to manage, if not solve, the problem.
But things play out differently if your neighbors are wealthy, well-connected, and rabidly anti-hunting. The people next door, Martina and Anthony Caputy, were horrified. “None of us are farmers,” she told the Washington Post. “We’re not dependent on crops or anything like that.” She called their efforts “senseless slaughter.” It didn’t stop there. Anthony Caputy is former chief of neurosurgery at an area hospital, where he once operated on Bob Barker, the 85-year-old former host of “The Price Is Right,” a man always happy to lend his celebrity to animal rights causes. Barker dashed off a letter to the state about deer treading “an ancestral path that leads them to and from their sleeping place ” and saying killing them would render nearby children “catatonic” and the adults “up in arms.”
PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk, never one to pass up the chance to pour accelerant onto a house fire, roused the troops and weighed in with a predictable statement, calling hunting “selfish, callous and cowardly.”
When told by a Post reporter that PETA and Bob Barker were issuing press releases about her backyard deer, Carmela Peterson’s first reaction was: “You’ve got to be kidding.” The Petersons met with their neighbors. In the end, they decided the loss of landscaping wasn’t worth the enmity of the community. The irony? The Petersons themselves are longtime PETA supporters. Mrs. Peterson once donated her car to the group.
The lesson for hunters is not that PETA will cannibalize its own supporters if they stop drinking the Kool-Aid. It’s that we face an extremely motivated, shrewd, and relentless group that would like to see hunting outlawed. If you’re a hunter, always be on your best behavior in public. Next time you see a hunter acting like a slob, remember that he’s hurting all of us.




These people obviously don't know how nature works, but yet see fit to try to impose their will on the rest of us, and sadly in this case used their bullying skills to browbeat their neighbors into submission.
Posted by: joe | July 22, 2008 at 11:15 AM
I agree totally your comments in the last paragraph. The property owners with the deer problem should now know the wisdom of 'silence is golden'.
Posted by: Jay | July 22, 2008 at 03:10 PM
joe, jay,
you guys are both focused, it seems, on what somebody else should do (PETA, the homeowners). my point is that PETA does what PETA always does; homeowners are going to act like homeowners always do(they didn't alert their neighbors to the hunt; the neighbors just found out). we can't change their behavior or tell them what to do. the only thing we have the power to change is our behavior. and we need to get motivated and sophisticated to convince the public that hunting is an ethical and appropriate means of managing deer herds. our behavior needs to be above reproach, because we're in danger of being outflanked in the p.r. war, which is what we're fighting. we've got to be better at PETA's game than they are. bh
Posted by: bill heavey | July 22, 2008 at 04:03 PM
joe, jay,
you guys are both focused, it seems, on what somebody else should do (PETA, the homeowners). my point is that PETA does what PETA always does; homeowners are going to act like homeowners always do(they didn't alert their neighbors to the hunt; the neighbors just found out). we can't change their behavior or tell them what to do. the only thing we have the power to change is our behavior. and we need to get motivated and sophisticated to convince the public that hunting is an ethical and appropriate means of managing deer herds. our behavior needs to be above reproach, because we're in danger of being outflanked in the p.r. war, which is what we're fighting. we've got to be better at PETA's game than they are. bh
Posted by: bill heavey | July 22, 2008 at 04:03 PM
First The Petersons nieghbors are and were way out of line, by crossing all sorts of Private Property Rights. What goes on on an individual's property where NO laws are being broken are strictly those Individuals business, ESPECIALLY when the State has thier back, by giving the permits in the first place. What I don't understand is that Liberals like Bob Barker and PETA who typically are pretty out there on the Left wing fringe (aka people who LOVE Govt. control of everything) disagree with the State. Its confusing to me, when someone WANTS to give all thier money and power to the State but then doesn't like the consequences of what happens. Does that confuse anyone else?
I also agree with Bill that we as Individuals who hunt, need to straighten out our image at times. We need (once again) to come up with sound Intelligent arguements, based on reason and facts, not emotion (which distorts fact). We can't win over PETA, that should never be our goal, you cannot reason with someone who thinks that its more humane for animals to strip the land bare then dies slowly from hunger and disease, than it is for a someone to hunt them in a fair chase manner, in which that person will then feed thier family, or if they are a successful predator donate the animal to an Organization like Hunters for the Hungry. Now you would think that the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, being leftys would agree with the previoulsy stated arguement. They let emotions get in the way of reason. The majority of PETA supporters live in citys and suburbs and, honestly that humans are disconnected from the Natural world. They are of the same thinking than man has control over the weather, we can't even control other people (look at all the laws we have to protect ourselves...well from ourselves)!!!!!! I agree with PETA that chaining my dog up to a tree in the backyard on 110 degree day and poking it with a hot stick is cruel and inhumane, does anyone disagree? But Man understanding his role as the only natural predator and thinning the herd, so the animals don't die slow painful UNETHICAL deaths.
Posted by: Scott | July 22, 2008 at 05:08 PM
Bill, great point, reinforces the right way for hunters to keep their way of life in tact. Thanks.
Posted by: joe | July 22, 2008 at 05:35 PM
Bill Heavey,
I apologize being off topic, but it does involve hunting and Virginia. Moving to DC area from the midwest this fall for a job, any good public land areas in Northern VA for hunting rabbits you'd recommend(w/o cutting into your food source for the year, that is)? Sadly leaving a farm I've got permission on that loaded w/ rabbits, now facing the prospect of public land hunting once again, until I can meet some farmers/landowners. If you have the time, any thoughts would be great from your local knowledge.
Posted by: rabbits | July 22, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Bill,
It always killed me to those who gave in to peer pressure. I guess those folks when brow beaten enough, placed their open palm over their agape mouth and said "Oh my God is that what they were going to do"? Pleasant Valley restored.
Posted by: Jim in Mo. | July 22, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Sounds like they've got you on the run, Bill....Not going to get one of those deer, are we?..Venison is everywhere, except in the cooler!? I know you could hunt in tie and suit, especially if you had your camo on underneath! Who the hell needs camo anyway...unless you're getting spotted by the neighbor watch committee up in that treestand! You just need a better cover...say a professor of aerial flight of incidential abjects in proximity to mammalian ungulates...dressed appropriately, and well mannered.....and a bow and arrow in your hand and a steely look in your eyes! Go get 'em,man!
Posted by: jes | July 22, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I JUST got access to a 3-4 acre parcel (my sister's land) in Fairfax County VA - Bill you're welcome to join me on a bowhunt. there are somoe monsters roaming those woods. In between houses and rose gardens. I was almost run over by a 10 pointer last fall. I called asked and got a big yes.
The trick is - arrow placement and going out early and coming in late on weekdays and avoiding weekends.
Posted by: NH Philosopher | July 23, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Bob Barker, I always liked you, even when you grabbed your hot co-worker's assets unwelcomingly, but you disgust me now
Posted by: Scrap5000 | July 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM
rabbits,
you ARE off-topic. worse, you are looking for rabbit land in Northern Virginia. my advice is to look further out. i have hunted them on eastern shore but nowhere around here. they're not as destructive, collectively, as deer seem to be in this area. plus they're cuter. in short, cast your net much wider. bh
Posted by: bill heavey | July 24, 2008 at 04:55 PM
Bill,
Thanks for the input, although it wasn't good news! Looks like I'll be missing the midwest and its abundant cottontail population this winter.
Posted by: rabbits | July 25, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Poor people being bullied for doing something intelligent. Why do those PETA members always have to rely on famous people.
Posted by: Nicholas | July 27, 2008 at 08:21 AM
Please don't paint everyone on the left with the fringe. I was disgusted when I read that article as well and I am a left leaning moderate. The Peterson's were well within their rights to get rid of the deer and it was none of the neighbors' business. Peta is a group so far out of the mainstream, it should not count as lefty. I have absolutely no problem with anyone who wants to hunt. Enjoy yourselves.
Posted by: Matt | July 29, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Just a note from across the pond, we are also getting over run in some places with deer... Scotland for instance has a huge population of Red deer, its to the point that during hunting season they are not being able to harvest enough deer to keep everything in check, that also has to do with the estates pushing the price up, so less people are actually hunting the deer. So the population keeps on growing....Watch this space!
thank your for your time. Bryan Sportingagent.com
Posted by: Bryan Nelson | August 02, 2008 at 05:51 PM
I guess the PR fight can be done both ways.
We hunters can find advocates too and play the game explaining about over population and all the other issues involved in a way that people would have to answer seriously
Posted by: Brenda | August 18, 2008 at 05:12 AM