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Discussion Topic: Have You Lost Access To Other Hunters?
From a Huntersurvey.com press release:
In [a] survey of about 2,000 hunters . . . just over one-third (34%) of hunters reported that restricted access to hunting lands reduced their hunting time over the past three seasons. . . .
Of the hunters who said their access to hunting lands had been restricted, more than half (about 58%) said that previously available land had been sold to a new owner who restricted hunting access, or that the landowner had given, leased, or sold hunting rights to others . . .
Have you lost access recently? Have you lost it to fellow hunters? Do you feel this is a growing problem?
Go to Huntersurvey.com to participate in the next survey.





Yes, I and many other hunters in my neck of the woods lost access to thousands of acres last year and will lose even more in 2008.
However new land owners or other hunters are not the problem. The land we are being shut out of is land that has been open to hunting for generations, that we the American people own, and that we the American hunter, largely paid for through the purchase of Federal Duck Stamps. The land in question is the Upper Mississippi National Fish and Wildlife Refuge and the landlord that has locked the gates on hunter access is the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
The right of private land owners to decide what activities take place on their property and who participates in them is, fortunately, guaranteed in this country. While we would all prefer to have as much private property open to as many hunters as possible, and should do everything possible to create relationships that will make that possible, the solution to our access problem does not lie in restricting private property rights or lamenting the passing of the era when every farmer's "back 40" was open to hunting for the cost of a poilte question and a handshake.
The real hunting access crisis rests with the ability of government agencys to close public land, our land, to the very people who paid for it in the first place. I would suggest that all hunters become familier with the agencies who control the public land in their area, be very vigilant regarding any proposed changes in access policy, and get involved at the local, state and national level to safeguard hunter's right to access public land.
The threat is real and the future of hunting is at stake.
Posted by: DAM | May 13, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I'm about to lose access to about 8,000 acreas of good publically owned land. Five Canadians are invoking the General Mining Act of 1872. They bought about 2000 acres of private land, which they intend to turn entirely into a 1 mile wide by half mile deep open pit mine. The GMA of 1872 comes in where they propose to dump 5 gigatons of toxic waste on USFS land and, in the process, fill up three canyons that are currently prime quail, dove, cottontail, and Coues deer habitat. The profits from this venture will exclusively benefit a bunch of suits in Alberta, and the copper thus gleaned will be sold to Chinese electronics manufacturers.
Posted by: Mike Diehl | May 13, 2008 at 01:05 PM
I really thought that I had something to gripe about, but after reading the first two blogs, I suppose my problems are miniscule!
A gentleman in my church allows me access to 120 acres he owns and 240 acres he leases. He allows others to hunt/fish also but it isn't the crowds you find on public land.
Another gent leased 240 acres for pasture/farming and allowed me to hunt. The land owner recently auctioned off the land in two parcels. One of 160 acres, the other 80 acres. The gentleman that purchased the 160 doesn't hunt and released to the same farmer. With a little luck, may get to hunt the 160. It's the best hunting anyway!
My wife and I hold 80 acres of family land. I am presently working at developing it so that the transient deer that DO come through, might hold them long enough to get a shot!
A neighbor, in exchange for farming our wheat allotment, gave me access to his 240 acres which adjoins a river bottom. Access to the river bottom is restricted, but open to the public! Basically, the land is there but surrounded by "deeded" land. One must but find a landowner that will allow ingress/egress. This can be accomplished with either a hand shake or a small fee! Few landowners in my area are hunters and some welcome hunters to shoot deer out of their crops!
It's taken me nearly six years, but I'm finally fairly secure in some hunting properties!
Bubba
P.S. I'm old and crippled, so I don't need nor want a big place to hunt!
Posted by: Bubba | May 13, 2008 at 01:28 PM
I started to say that because I hunt primarily public land; land which was purchase with monies from sales of hunting and fishing licenses I felt safer than folks who rely on Ole Farmer Brown to let them hunt his 'back 40' as was stated above. Now reading the two posts here I am concerned that 'They' may yet restrict access to public lands which I hunt. We have an incredible legacy in this country; the foresight of hunters such as Teddy Roosevelt, Audobon, Aldo Leopold and many others to preserve lands in public ownership for all of us, as our constituency shrinks there will be evermore pressure to restrict hunting from many parcels -- even those which hunters directly bought and paid for. Some of the mechanisms go way back as Mike Diehl made clear above but there are new threats coming daily from the antis and the suits. What is the answer? Stay on top of proposed use changes as much as possible, write or email your Congressperson and Senators to ask what their stance on such laws as the General Mining Act of 1872 is (educate yourself on it ahead) and be prepared to educate them on it when they don't know enough about it. Go to town council, zoning board and planning (especially) board meetings and be heard -- bring your fellow hunters too!
SA
Posted by: SilverArrow | May 13, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Up in North Dakota we have just reached a milestone total amout of PLOTS. We have reached one-million acres of land that is free to hunters. The only restricted land is the old cranky people that put up their 'no hunting' signs, otherwise there is more land opening up than shutting down.
Nate
Posted by: I'm in school right now | May 13, 2008 at 03:55 PM
I lose to developement. All of the land big enough for a hunt club is already used for that purpose, so they don't kick me outa my usual grounds.
Posted by: | May 13, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Here in California we are losing access to tons of acres of public land and its not just hunters who are suffering but also fishermen, hikers,etc... Many groups are fighting to keep this land open but its an uphill battle and you tend to get discouraged after suffering defeat after defeat. It's a shame to see this is also happening all over the country and not just in my neck of the woods.
Posted by: RC | May 13, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Same thing happening down in Alabama. What's the answer?
http://www.Huntbuzz.com
Posted by: Rich | May 14, 2008 at 12:27 AM
I'm back!!
Thanks for the support that you guys gave me. My heart do to surgery is fine now and luckily I will be able to hunt deer this fall.
Now to the main topic. I'm sorry that some people don't have land to hunt on because the new owners don't want people to hunt there, but... it is their land and they have every right to keep people off of it. I mean they're the ones who pay for it!
MPN
Posted by: MPN | May 14, 2008 at 05:44 PM
nice to see you're healthy again MPN!
Dan P.
Posted by: Dan P. | May 15, 2008 at 05:51 PM
I don't know how thats happenin North Dakota but man ur lucky, here around Davenport, Iowa theres housing developments Goin up every time i turn around and it annoys the piss outta me, it just angers me to here my uncles and grandpa talk about huntin places that are now housing developments, overpriced starbucks, and walmarts. im just lucky enough to have a cool uncle with a a place to hunt in southwest iowa, i dont know what id do with out him. but we need to get involved in the government, put our damn foot down, and stand up up for the right to hunt the land god gave us
Posted by: jason k | May 15, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Jason K
That's a pretty far commute from Davenport to Southwest iowa to hunt. With gas prices being what they are it probably turns the cost of your venison pretty comparable to prime rib!
Posted by: William | May 16, 2008 at 12:18 AM