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June 26, 2008

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A Hit From The Supremes

“It was a damned near-run thing.”—Arthur, Lord Wellesley, Duke of Wellington, on the Battle of Waterloo, at which the English came very close to getting their asses whipped by Napoleon.

Well, this was a damned near-run thing. We averted disaster by one vote. If the Supremes had found against Mr. Heller and held that the Second Amendment refers only to militias, the future would be grim beyond imagining. We will, in all likelihood, have an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress and a President named Obama. In the face of a defeat for our side, the new congress would draw up a really hellish anti-gun bill, and Obama would sign it immediately. Democrats can’t help it; it’s genetic.

Justice Scalia (who, as I recall, went duck hunting with Dick Cheney and survived) wrote the majority opinion, holding that the right to self-defense is an intrinsic part of Article II and, in the process declared unconstitutional Washington’s idiotic rule that all guns in the home must be disassembled or have trigger locks on them.

We got a very, very big break today, but Sarah Brady will not go away, and Hillary Clinton will forget that she is supposed to be Annie Oakley, and Chuck Schumer and Michael Bloomberg will still be doing business at the same stand. If you would like to do something to celebrate, send some money to the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. Armed with the Heller decision, the ILA will be fighting to roll back some of our more idiotic gun laws. And they have a long, long list to choose from.

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Jim in Mo.

BO next pres? Nope. No way. The many folks who want 'change' are the same people who need the gov. to tell them what to do and can't survive without gov. handouts. They won't go vote. The mailbox is as far as they can walk.
The election is an eternity away, lets hope investigative journalists do their job a put a little tarnish on this shining star.
Todays victory, hoowahh!

jack

It's a wretched commentary on this Court that the opinion wasn't 9-0.

I have read several excerpts, and the idjits on the left side of the bench astound with their utter incomprehension of the phrase "shall not be infringed".

But - a win is a win. We must build upon it. The Heller decision is far from the last word. The Leftists will pry every crack they can find to limit private ownership of firearms. This decision does not defeat the Left - it ignites them. I am glad they are fuming.

Tom Sorenson

You're right - I shudder at the thought of "What if...."

Jim in Mo.

One thing is clear and very wrong. The dissenters voted for their wishes and desires. It is their job, no, duty to uphold the law and constitution of U.S. Even if something is against their strongest religious beliefs they are not to let that affect them.
We're lucky, one of the conservative judges is nearing retirement. The next president very well may change the complexion of this court.

Black Rifle addict

I wish the vote would have been higher, to, but a win is a win!

DBMJR1

Obama's policies will increase the sale of PVC pipe, and cosmoline, thus stimulating the economy.

Paul Harricks

OK. I'm a Canadian and so, by definition, a liberal and perhaps therefore a security threat to the United States, so you can discount everything I'm about to say. But I would appreciate if someone could explain to me why the one developed country in the world that (i) still tolerates the death penalty and (ii) has the most liberal (excuse the expression) gun laws, has by far the highest murder rate (about 5 times that of its northern neighbor on a per capita basis). Toronto is a city that is about the size of Chicago and its murder rate is a fraction of its American counterpart. We have our fair share of poverty and marginalized minority groups and all the other things that are usually blamed for gun crime, but we essentially outlaw handguns and have a much lower rate of death and injury. All explanations gratefully received.

Paul Harricks

OK. I'm a Canadian and so, by definition, a liberal and perhaps therefore a security threat to the United States, so you can discount everything I'm about to say. But I would appreciate if someone could explain to me why the one developed country in the world that (i) still tolerates the death penalty and (ii) has the most liberal (excuse the expression) gun laws, has by far the highest murder rate (about 5 times that of its northern neighbor on a per capita basis). Toronto is a city that is about the size of Chicago and its murder rate is a fraction of its American counterpart. We have our fair share of poverty and marginalized minority groups and all the other things that are usually blamed for gun crime, but we essentially outlaw handguns and have a much lower rate of death and injury. All explanations gratefully received.

JTC

We can finally let out that big breath we have been holding in, and then take in another one and hold it.

Jim in Mo.

Paul Harricks,
How are you, heh? Ya think Toronto's low murder rate has something to do with handguns or lack thereof. Naw. Aberition maybe. My thought is the expectations put on people, or lack thereof. You get lazy shiftless people on government aid, their lack of desire to work to better themselves, afterall the welfare is good by them, add to that da more babies they spit out da more dey git. Well, what do you thinks gonna happen at 3am with drunken/crack head corner standin misfits?
End the handouts this #1 country gives out so freely. Bring back work programs of the 30's.

Ed J

Paul
cuz youse guys punish yer criminals.

johnl

Hi Paul,
Glad to answer you.
The reason we still tolerate the death penalty is because we still have the stones to use it.
Some dirtbags deserve it. We still have more sympathy for the victims of crimes than the perpetrators.
Poverty and marginialized minority groups don't cause crime, CRIMINALS do.

Our liberal gun laws are called FREEDOM. You'd best hope we keep it, or your sorry butts will be very vulnerable.
Liberal used to be a good word, as did discriminating, until the left turned them upside down like many others.
Have a nice day.

Paul Harricks

Jim in Mo:

It is pretty clear that you have never been to Toronto. I'm not sure I can even begin to understand what you're talking about (gangsta rap isn't really my thing). But the Canadian welfare system - if that is what you mean by "government aid" - is pretty similar to yours. We have plenty of ghettos (a word we don't use but you know what I mean) and our unemployment rate is pretty much the same as yours. We have crackheads and drunks and misfits and a social welfare system that means that no one slips between the cracks unless they really want to. Yet I can walk almost anywhere in my city any time of the night or day and feel safe. Sorry, but your explanation doesn't really explain anything about what makes us different.

Paul Harricks

johnl:

By "stones" I take it you mean "balls" or "cojones". I'm not sure how much testosterone is needed to condemn someone to death by lethal injection (especially if someone else - some poor government-paid drudge making $15 an hour- is actually the one to carry out the deed), but be that as it may. The issue as regards the death penalty (and I thought we were discussing gun laws) is that it obviously doesn't achieve the goal that it is intended to achieve; otherwise the only developed country in the world that keeps it - the US- would have the lowest rather than the highest murder rate. Or is there another purpose to the death penalty beyond deterrence? Retribution? Revenge? happy to discuss.


Mike Diehl

"But I would appreciate if someone could explain to me why the one developed country in the world that (i) .. and (ii) ..."

No problem.

1. We have the death penalty because the universe is an objectively better place when violent repeat offenders die.

2. Same as #1 above.

The US murder rate is lower in all cities where firearms ownership rules are permissive. In contrast, in most European states with large urban populations, while murder rates are lower, violent crime rates are greater. In some states, like switzerland, where everyone can own a firearm, violent crime rates are the lowest in the world.

In the US, the murder rate, where we mean a criminal killing someone rather than legal self-defense (which is not murder but instead justified homicide), the vast majority of people murdered are criminals murdered by other criminals. That is perfectly acceptable to me.

Paul Harricks

"the vast majority of people murdered are criminals murdered by other criminals". This is certainly not so in Canada, but it does help to explain why there is the tolerance for handgun ownership in the US that doesn't exist here. Can you give me some data on that? Statistics? It would be really helpful. You also say: "the US murder rate is lower in all cities where firearms ownership rules are permissive". Again, stats would be useful here. In Toronto we are about to outlaw gun clubs ( a notion that I'm sure send shudders up your spine) so if you can substantiate this it would be very helpful.

Jim in Mo.

Paul Harrick,
UH, get your head out of your self-rightious ass and re-read my post. Its us that gives away money to the free loaders, not you. Thats who I was talking about, our liberal segment who play like they are God's gift. Some Canadians act that way too.

Paul Harricks

Jim in Mo:

Not really trying to be self-righteous at all, but I think you'll find that Canada is a lot more generous in its welfare system than the US. We have a higher unemployment rate (though it is declining quickly relative to the US) and more what you would call "freeloaders". That is far from a good thing, but we still don't kill one another as much.

Jim in Mo.

Paul H.
People kill each other for reasons stated the first time. As for your statement on welfare system in Canada, if your speaking of health care, thats different, but the jury is still out on that. Still reading it ain't perfect, in fact abissmal for some. But, that being said, if I had no money I sure would like some help even if I had to wait in line, for months (I probably have nothing else to do).

coach ike

here is the problem: Second Ammendment is way too powerful to mess with right now, especially that the economy sucks. even if obama gets in he has other and bigger fish to fry. but if he does a good job first term, voters will re-elect him. what do you think he will go after next? EXACTLY!!! on the other hand mccain is a moron because he is bush disciple. and bush is the main reason why our economy sucks. DAVE WHY DON'T YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENT????

coach ike

dave you still did not answer my question on your list of accurate rifles in this month's issue. how come the ruger m77 hawkeye was not even tested? NRA'S magazine American Hunter did a fantasic write up on it and that's why i bought it.

alberta hunter

re: Paul Harrick's comments
He is spouting the leftie liberal dogma. Toronto is a hell hole and gang shootings of rivals and innocent people is rampant. of course citizens have to have their guns locked up and the idiot mayor is now proposing a total gun ban. yeah, the gangsters are really obeying the law now. Canada's stringent gun laws put in place by several lib-tard governments have done nothing but handcuffed honest citizens and created a massive inept error riddled bureaucracy. Crime is out of control throughout Canada and most of our judges are lib-tards as well who keep looking for the reason criminals exist instead of locking up career criminals. Every gun related activity has been hit hard by our foolish registration system and crime has escalated. Appreciate the freedoms you Americans have and stand up to every moron who wants to restrict them.

JCB

It has been a good day for gun owners. We have gained some breathing room with the SCOTUS ruling but the war is not over. Just shows how important it is to elect conservative presidents. Two of the majority were appointed by George W. Bush. If Gore of Kerry had won and made those appointments they would have been liberals and we would have lost. So very sad that it was only 5 to 4. The vote was strictly along ideological lines and had nothing to do with an honest reading of the Bill of Rights. Saclia's majority opinion was excellent in the historical references to support the 2nd. amendment right. The dissenting opinion was nothing but opinion.

Ed J

here are some numbers from the FBI uniform crime reports.
murder rate per 100,000 for;
Illinois 7.9
Missouri 6.6
Minnesota 2.4
Wisconsin 3.6
Iowa 1.7
N. Dakota 1.1
Distric of Columbia 40.6

The only state to have double digit rate is TA DA Louisiana 11.2

Ed J

So Paul H whats the rate for Toronto?




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