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A Little Light-Weapons Humor

Military-rifle humor is a pretty scarce commodity, and I thought you might get a wry smile or two out of this page from mouseguns.com. It hath the ring of truth.  My thanks to Teena Hubbard of Field & Stream Radio, who sent it.

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RipperIII

Funny stuff! I've been wanting an AR for quite awhile now, I had heard they can be finicky to clean and maintain, but they are a hoot to shoot, any make better than another?
Also, anyone have any experience with "the Judge" .45/.410 from Taurus? I am looking for a good snake gun that I could also use to hunt deer and hogs at bow range

Jim in Mo.

RipperIII,
From what I've read the judge may be a bit short barreled for hunting.

RipperIII

Thanks Jim,
I am definitely wary of the accuracy of the .45lc even in the 6" barrel.

Duck Creek Dick

You got to love those Mosin Nagant rifles. I'd like to know the story on my 1941 M-91 rifle. The steel cased surplus ammo I shoot works fine but is a bit sticky to extract and the spent cases smell oddly of burnt aspalt. A short cheater pipe over the bolt knob might be in order. Thank you Teena Hubbard!

Beekeeper

Our local Game Warden told me of a habitual poacher who carried Mosin-Nagant rifles. He must have bought them by the case. Any time the Warden(s) got close to him he would just drop the Nagant of the moment and walk away. He wore gloves so no prints and he filed off the serial numbers. The warden had found 6 rifles leaning by trees all while in hot pursuit of this knot head. When they finally caught him he confessed to his drop and run tactics. He also confessed to poaching several really nice bucks and many trophy gobblers with the old Russian rifles. The poachers endoresment of the Mosin-Nagant was cheap buy, cheap to feed, accurate enough for the job and durable. After hearing this story I noticed that a local discount store had them for sale at $49.95!

Shaky

I test fired a M-N last fall, because my friend didn't think I had aquired the proper ammo for it.
That was the strangest arm I have ever fired. I heared the firing pin strike the primer and there was a delay,like a flint lock, then it fired. Also the burned powder did smell like hot asfault. Wasn't able to sight the rifle in, because the group, at 35yds. was 14inches. Probably bad ammo, possibly a piece of junk rifle, or both.

Thomas

My only experience with the mosin Nagant is that is kicks like a Missouri Mule only twice as hard. My shoulder was sore for a week after polishing off a box of 20. The after market stocks with the rubber recoil pad helps immensely.

Tom the Troll

Dave Petzal

I believe that some M-N military ammo had the bullets sealed with asphalt. That made them proof against snow, ice, vodka, borscht, and other harmful substances. I've also seen 1970s European sporting ammo sealed with asphalt. Good stuff, asphalt.

Blue Ox

Now that's some of the funniest stuff I seen in a while. Especially with it being gun humor and all.
Good stuff!

Jay

I have an Olympic Arms AR-15. It will shoot .223 or 5.62. Be advised; these are not the same and some AR's can only shoot one or the other. I believe the case pressures between the 2 are the reason.

.223 doesn't kick much to begin with and I have a harris bipod and leupold tactical scope on it; heavy rifle and literally kicks like a .22.

My wife bought this for me at christmas; and would have never bought this on my own. I tend to like the traditional wood stock; blue'd finish. This rifle is a dream to shoot and I do not have any problems cleaning the rifle.

TheMrMitch

Yup. Very funny stuff. I like.

I have a couple of AK clones, several Moisans and one Bushy 5.56/223 that I love dearly.

Only thing I've had really hurt was a Steyr M95 in 8x56R. My MNs are kitty cats.

Nicholas

"You arent even sure there WERE cameras-" hilarious!

ishawooa

If you liked "Enemy at the Gates" try to locate a copy of the book "War of the Rats". You will enjoy it.
When the .223 came out we considered it a good short to medium range prairie dog cartridge, nothing to compare to our old rifles like .22-.250, .243. 6 mm, .25-06, or the Swift. I have seen a couple deer killed with .223's by shooters using proper bullets well placed at close range. This still does not make it a .30-'06. Odd that no one outside of the U.S. has much use for the Stoner gas impingement system. I still prefer the M-14 and 7.62 x 54 for a service weapon over any version of the AR but then I'm just an old fart set in his ways. By the way I do have a custom built black rifle in .223 which possesses a magnificent trigger and is a tack driver but I admit that the comments offered by the "mousegun.com" article hold a great deal of truth.

Jim in Mo.

ish,
The 7.62x54 is still needed. Some memebers of military may not be happy. Perhaps you've read this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080527/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/battling_over_bullets;_ylt=AmniCHCk05zonV608jFKNems0NUE

Tony

I have a mosin M44, and let me tell you, there is truth in most, if not all, of those quotes about mosins.

ishawooa

Jim in MO:
Now that's what I am talking about. Additionally remember Petzal's story about the soldiers at Gettysburg who had loaded their rifles multiple times without firing once? Think back to the 19th century and earlier when a .45 or larger caliber was standard military size. It took our military a long time to accept the .30-40 over the .45-70, both of which are a long ways from a .223. In fact it does get down to proper training and utilization of the weapon, that is a given. Nevertheless, we were once told that one of the major reason for changing to the .223 was so less training would be necessary, more ammo could be carried, and without it actually being stated we were given the impression that we should "spray and pray" once we left the range. Are we not back to the Indian or the arrow again? Actually both Indian and arrow are important and each must do the job properly for the other.
Thanks for the article as I had missed it and really enjoyed the commentary.

Galen Burgett

The Mosin-Nagant rifle has an incredibly long, successful, and illustrious history as the service rifle of several countries. It was used by the Finns in the Winter War of 1939 in one of the greatest feats of arms in the 20th century. An outnumbered and outgunned Finnish fighting force held off a Soviet invasion of Finland by a massive Soviet army. The Finnish versions of the Mosin-Nagant are some of the most accurate and tough military bolt rifles ever made. The Finns used bought and captured Russian M-N receivers and built a whole new rifle out of them.
Given the long service history and plenty of documentation to back up the claim, the Mosin Nagant design was probably one of the best bolt action combat rifles ever produced. Oh yes, the Finn rifles were made by Sako and VKT, which would later become Valmet.

sarg

I bought a M/N long rifle (1942)earlier this spring, along with some commercial ammo. Not got to shoot it yet, waiting for the time when nothing else to do. Certainly not one of the Better bolt guns when compared to others but would work if need be.

Jim in Mo.

ish,
I loved the very last sentence of the story, the statement from Col. Radcliff: "One of the things I've discovered in guns is that damned near everyone is an expert, and they all have opinions".
He'd fit right in here.

SilverArrow

"They had AKs; we had .50 caliber machine guns. We won!"
My son on one of the firefights his unit was in during his sojourn in Iraq.
SA

mark-(A)

Just, hilarious! That writer has a future with Late Night or the Tonight Show!

Mike

An oldie but a goodie. Given I own one of each... okay - be fair... more than one of each... :D I've always found that to be a really fun read. Only one quibble (yes - just ONE) - the Mosin Nagant does indeed have a mechanical safety - it's just a complete pain to use...

Old Bull

Olga's Toenails.....Hilarious.
Funny Nagant story. (We called them "Moistly Stagnants") Buddy of mine bought one at a (gasp) gun show here in Michigan. It actually had desent fit and finish. We took it out to a field to try it out, and low and behold, with the issue irons, shot better than believable. At dusk, with green, corroded, provenance unknown ammo, we could whack rocks at better than 400 yards. It made for a cool light show when the steel jacket, core would hit granite.
We hatched all kinds of evil plans to make money on bar bets with this ugly club, but sadly it was used for trade stock.
It even came with the accessory tin. They must have dug it out from under that building in Budapest.

Scrap5000

I want a MN now

Bubba

Now have some real fun, compare a Winchester, Remington and a Weatherby!

LOL!!!


Bubba




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