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On Big Ones That Get Away

John Wootters, who is retired now but was a wonderful writer and a true expert on whitetails, tried for more than 40 years to get a B and C buck, but never succeeded. (He did, however, shoot some doozers.) The big ones are simply not disposed to being shot, but I think that all of us have seen some monsters that will haunt us for all our days.

I saw one such deer last week in Maine, in my vehicle, driving back to camp along a logging road at 4:40 in the evening, which was right at the end of legal light. He had just crossed the road, and his head was already in the brush on the other side, but I got a good look at his body, and he was either:

a) an honest-to-God 300-pounder
b) an off-color moose
c) Rosie O'Donnell in a taupe-colored fur coat

I vote for a) because in that part of northern Maine, 240-pound deer are, while not common, certainly not unusual, and once in a while you're bound to find one that goes beyond 240. I thought for a second about yanking my rifle out of its case, shoving in a round, and going in after him, but it was after hours, and the warden who patrols those roads is a pitiless man who knows not the meaning of mercy.

I will always wonder what kind of a rack he had. Probably pretty good, because the headgear up there, while not pretty, gets big. On the other hand, if I had seen his horns I might have burst into tears and disgraced myself.

What the hell. That monster is still out there, and unless the snow or the coyotes get him, I may see him again next November. In the meanwhile, to tide us over until then, here is another photo of Ms. Beau Garrett.

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Dr. Ralph

I hunted a big one for a few years but never really saw him... Huge rubs and tracks and he stayed in the same general area. One time I took my son there when he was about 9 years old and I sat him down in the monster's den. I heard the deer blow a few hours later right where my boy was so I went to investigate. Did you see anything? Yeah, he said. I didn't know there were cows back here. Cows? There aren't any cows... He says well I saw something but it was way too big to be a deer.

Clay Cooper

I find it interesting what a little Mabaline and proper attire can do to the average looks.

The Lady that I love is at home!

Dan

Dave,

I hunt Maine also, the area around The Forks, along Rt. 201. By the time I left this year (we didn't get a deer)the board at the general store had 2 bucks that dressed over 200lbs. One was 202, and the other was 220. I believe it was last year that they had tagged a dressed deer at 274. And I know of those monsters that haunt hunter's dreams. They always seem to show themselves just after legal light, or of course as you're driving down the road on the way out of camp. Maybe one of these years I'll connect with a true Maine giant, until then, I'll just keep enjoying the hunt.

YooperJack

Dave:
While she's very pretty, I'll probably forget her as soon as this blog goes down. What's remarkable is that I came back from hunting Sunday night. During the first four days of the season, I remembered every massive buck that I saw and the almost exact location where I saw that buck since I started hunting there in 1979! Also, during the drive home, I thought about all of the massive bucks that I've seen while driving to and from work across the U.P. I can also remember them when I drive again in that location.
I think also that Dan is on to something when he said that those big bucks are nocturnal. I'm convinced that there are deer that only move at night and spend the rest of the day holed up. That's probably why they get so big. Our camp is the only one in the area where the hunters actually go out in the woods and roam. Everyone else goes to a baited blind. I believe that this allows those nocturnal bucks to live a lot longer because no one happens to jump them other than us and if we jump them, no one is there to take advantage of that.

Dr. Ralph

Average looks? Clay you need an optometrist... Has anyone seen the Huckabee ad with Chuck Norris? Here it is...

I wonder what she will look like when she turns 40?

Couple of years ago, ran across an old friend that was in the Navy and of course they had a thing about Hawaiian Girl tattoos. I remember when he was in his late 20’s it looked good then but now it looks like Don Knotts in a grass skirt!

Bubba

Dave

Ya gotta cut it out! My wife thinks I'm visiting some sort of porn sight! Either stop or issue a male only password! With all us old geezers, you're gonna cause a massive coronary in somewhere.

In my little corner of the world here in the Great Southwest, somebody checked in one at 193 lbs. Gutted, according to the log book.
1) The stations scales only go to 160.
2) Most of the folks in this area "don't" (!) field dress, opting to go directly from kill to check station to processer.
I killed one that field dressed 140 lbs and thought I had a brontasaurus on the ground!
Saw a mulie on the edge of the Southern Ute land near Chimney Rock! Absolutely amazing! The fact that he was ON Indian land and about 600/700 yds away....
I ran down a canyou to within about 200 yds of where he was standing. Gasping for air, I finally located him again, going deeper into the reservation at about 400 yards!

Bubba

alabamahunter

There was one deer that walked out into the greenfeild I was hunting on the last day of season with a half hour left in legal light. To make a long story short, he stood out there for 20 minutes and although it was the rut he never turned to face the does 15 yards from my stand. I did get a good look at his rack though. He was a complete bruiser of an 8 point. He had as wide a rack as I've ever seen. He probably would have gone 130" on the B&C scale. That may not be huge everywhere else, but down here it is a giant.

Clay Cooper

Dr Ralph
Don't need optometrists at all, 20 years of Military and driving an 18 wheeler over the road for 11 years I’ve learned a lot. Besides, my true love is at home!!! Since we have known each other we never had a fight or argument. Pastor Mark C. that married us told me, he cannot believe that an Italian blooded Woman married to an Irish blooded Man can get along under the same roof as we do. Don’t even think of pissing off the wife and she knows there is a couple of buttons that she knows do not even think of pushing on me. She knows when I get grouchy it's time to go eat!!!

I find that Women fall into two categories like Champagne and the other Wine. Champagne tickles and you get a thrill and the frill is short lived, but a fine wine? O’YES! Now that my friend is what God has made!

On a serious note, laying all jokes aside,
I hope and pray this young Lady stops and keeps orientating herself for who she really is and focus on what tomorrow will truly be. To realize and to keep focused to take care of herself that there are those that have and will take advantage of her just like a Wal-Mart Gift card that they will trash her when all is used up, account ZERO….GAME OVER!!!!

Young people like her, I do worry about them

Black Rifle Addict

The lady is very pretty...ahhh to be young again!
Biggest whitetail I saw taken was in ND weight from a farm feed scale at a little over 255lbs..a 13 point I remember it being?
Anyway, that was one big deer! I saw a number of large mulies there, but most locals hunted whitetail.

Clay Cooper

Spotted thrasher on a far ridge Sunday night! This Friday I’m going after him!

Steve C

Mr. Petzel,

The choices of what you may have seen are redundant. Anyone with a pulse already knows Rosie O’Donnell is an honest-to-God 300 pound, off colored moose. Now, what she was doing in the woods of Maine is anybody’s guess.

Speaking of big ones, the biggest whitetail I’m aware of (dead or alive) was a purported 477lb buck shot in Pennsylvania at the turn of the century. The photo was published in the editorial columns of either Outdoor Life or Field & Stream in the late 60s/early 70s with the caption “477lb Whitetail?”. No one could apparently confirm the weight but, based on the size of the deer hanging by the hunter in the picture, it was estimated to weight at least 350 lbs by the editors. Assuming the hunter wasn’t 4 ft tall, the deer appears to have been 9ft+ as it hung.

You obviously have better resources than the rest of us so perhaps someone at F&S can track this down.

YooperJack

Dr. Ralph:
I did see that ad on Fox News. Its really cute. I'll remember that long after I forget the lass pictured above.
I hope that ad helps. Its funny and makes you want to watch!

Bubba

Remember an article many, many moons ago, (60's I think?!) about what they called, if I remember correctly, "The Hinkly(sp) Buck" that was reported to be a real whopper! Tried a web search but was unable to get any results. The article was in one of the big outdoor mags of the era, F&S, OL or SA! If anyone can locate the info, (if my memory hasn't gone south with my body and brain), seems the buck went somewhere in the 800 lb range!

Bubba

Bubba

Finally found it!
http://www.sprtingjournal.com/main9shtml

Second only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!

Guess my memory has gone south also!

Bubba

Blue Ox

Come on, Dave. Now you're just teasing us!

Greg

I have a vague recolection of the 477 lb buck killed in Maine I think. It was every bit 9 feet long too. Dont remember what mag I saw it in? CRS moment!

Bubba

Finally found it!
http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9shtml

Second only to a Minn buck that dressed 402 lbs, Hinckley's Maine whitetail field dressed 355 lbs with an estimated live weight of 488 lbs!

Guess my memory has gone south also!

Bubba

Blue Ox

Linkie no workie, Bubba.

Bubba

First link don't work!

Bubba

Bubba

Gonna get it right or die trying. One more time!!!

http://www.sportingjournal.com/main9.shtml

Bubba

WA Mtnhunter

I bet Rosie O'Donnell outweighs all of them!
She'll go 400 hanging weight!

Always use an adequate caliber!

WA Mtnhunter

I'd venture a guess that those old bucks were so tough that you couldn't chew the gravy...

Bubba

Just completed reading the entire article. It was 3 days after killing the deer that the buck was actually weighed! What kind of shrinkage occurs in that period of time? Probably would have pushed that 402 Minn buck way back to No. 2 had it been weighed in a timely manner!

Bubba




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