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November 20, 2008

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Stand Up for Flyfishing... Win a Trip.

Gunnison

A simple proposition... Please explain to the F&S nation by way of comment below why flyfishing is the highest angling art-form, and what flyfishing means to you. You get one, concise, paragraph.

The reward to the winner of this contest is this: An overnight, two-day float down the Black Canyon (Chukar to Pleasure Park) on the Gunnison River in Colorado, with myself (maybe Tim also, if you're really convincing)... and if you smile and have fun, I'll even post a positive report (with photos) on this blog. You'll catch a lot of fish... all you have to do is get to Montrose, Colorado, and coordinate a 2009 date with me. Beer, stories, tricks and glory are all included. The sponsors of this contest are Fly Talk, Tim Romano, Kirk Deeter, and the Gunnison River.

Good luck.

Deeter

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eric

I'm sure the prize will go to someone who writes something far more profound. But to my mind, the question is readily settled by the simple fact that nobody would ever want to wear power-bait boxer shorts.

KD

That, right there, is a contender.

Mr. Creosote

Don't knock the Power Bait. It's not bad spread on a Triscuit.

And it's perfectly natural to whack the bait now and then. Just don't let anyone see you doing it.

These oughtta be fun to read, but if flyfishing is the highest and purest form of angling then you should also devote a future blog post to the lowest...

joey

sorry, but as much as i love fly fishing (and it's almost all i do), i think it has one of the most self-righteous, snobby group of participants in all of angling. fishing is fishing, man. why even make the comparison? to feed your ego? i'm secure with what i do, no need to position myself 'higher' than anyone else. flailing around inefficiently with thousands of dollars in gear just to catch a fish and throw it back.

oops, i guess i didn't win.

jerry k

a flyfisheman is a person that connects to the sport on a more personal level ,you tie flys,match the hatch,stalk your fish,get that perfect drift and when it all comes together and you have that fish in your hands you get a level of satisfaction you dont get from floating a shiner under a bobber and thats flyfishing is anglings highest art-form.

well i think that we get enough recognition, if we got anymore wouldnt that rewin the sport, the streams would be crouded and the gear would get more expensive becaus eof the damand, and in 13 and im having a hard time geting what i need with birthday money!

Daren

I love all fishing, I don't care what kind it is. I fish with lures, I fish with bait and I fly fish. It all depends upon the situation. It doesn't matter to me or should it anyone else, what kind of fishing we do. Isn't it supposed to be about fun, and all fishing is fun. I use whatever technique catches the most fish. I fly fish the most because I can catch the most fish by fly fishing. I fly fish for trout, bass, panfish, Carp, or anything else will bite with a flyrod because it is fun. I am not afraid to fish with any techinque that catches fish, Why because it is fun.

ethan

There are two types of fishing: Active and Passive. Bait fishing is Passive, while Flyfishing is Active. To baitfish requires no more than that one bait the hook, throw it out and wait. There is almost no skill required to baitfish. Where there is no skill, there can be no perfection of skill, and where this is not, there can be no perfection to the point of mastery or artistry. To flyfish is by far the more artful and polished action: one must know how to get the fly "out there," and the techniques and timing so as to keep from entangling the line and/or snagging oneself; one must be able to "read water" to know where fish will be, how current will act upon a fly and how then to cast for the best presentation; one must know which fly to use under what circumstances. Once these things are mastered, it can be fairly said that one is a master fisherman--an artist--because he has come nearest to perfection: thinking like the current carrying a drifting insect, thinking like a trout in it and keeping his line in proper order and time to make those thoughts converge in reality upon the right place at the right time. To me, flyfishing means a chance to escape the complexities and burdens of this world, to have some time to reinvigorate my spirit and to get some quality quiet time to myself. To me, a half-day on a troutstream is more relaxing and revitalizing than two weeks on a luxury cruise. As a friend of mine put it, "The act of flyfishing is a transcendence of the mundane and slavish world we have come to know as reality."

Yes, we purists are a snobby, stuck-up group. But judging from the results of a day baitfishing at the town pond compared to a day on a pristine troutstream in the backwoods, we have every right to be.

"Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs. I am haunted by waters."
~Norman Maclean

Koldkut

In all forms of angling, the objective lies in brining a fish to hand using a rod, line, and hook. It would seem that a fish is a fish no matter how you caught it, but the proofs in the pudding, that fly-fishing is the highest form of angling. It’s man vs. nature on the stream; you’re up against all elements and not just the fish. Trying to duplicate what’s happening naturally with a hook and thread and feathers to bring it all together in the hopes of cradling your quarry and take in a serene moment. No other moment like this can exist where you sit in a chair listening to motors running and electronics beep at you. Fly-fishing to me is a way to ease out of the daily grind and go back to a simpler day, to get away from the high tech machine laden world around my daily life. It drains all stress away and sends it downstream leaving me content to sit and take it all in. In all the forms of angling that I participate in, I would rather catch one fish on the fly then 5 any other way.

Fat Guy Alex

Fly fishing is no better than any other type of fishing when it comes down to the goal of fishing in general. It is still some a-hole taking a fish out of a body of water under false pretenses.

The main difference is that any retard can throw a lure a mile and reel it back in, but it takes a certain level of practice, discipline and patience to cast a fly with any level of dignity and grace.

Add that to the amount that one needs to know to feel proficient at fly fishing and its no wonder the sport produces so many condescending, stuck-up boobs.

It is a great thing though, that fly fishing. I love it.

Nick

Because fly fishing has stretched the extremities of possibility to its maximum levels. Think about it this way: so many fine details have to come together to produce a single meaningless and (often) taken for granted result. you have to tie a mostly weightless fly that represents a food item, learn to cast it using a fly line that weighs more than the fly which you use by flick back and forwards at the end of carbon or cane stick that is the end result of many hours of research, maufacture and discussion, hidden form the fish by way a monofilaments hydrocarbon line designed to be strong yet invisible. and at the end of all that the little buggers still might be scared by your cast, your wading, your boat, a tree, the sky etc. In some ways you wonder how you ever manage to catch a fish at all, but when you do the combination of a series of narrowingly, near-impossible events makes its so beautiful, how could it not be art?

and this can apply whether you're throwing #28 tricos on a 1 weight to winter browns, 1/0 bugs at bass on an 8 weight or 8/0 triple tube streamers at billfish on a 14 weight stump puller

Compare it to a Caravaggio - its easy to look from a distance and say yes i can do that, but look closely and try and replicate it and you'll see how much hard work and skill goes into such an "easy" thing.

Alex Pernice the fly rod winner

Well to be honest, Fly fishing is more of a challenge than throwing some corn or power bait ( Yea I'm raggin on joey on this one.) you have to find what there eating, what size, what color, and most of all, how the hell to cast and keep that darn size 2 cone head bugger out of the back of you're head ect.

Mr. Creosote

Hey Fat Guy, so you're saying any "retard" could pick up a baitcaster and start casting like a pro?

Levi

Sure sometimes while casting a lure I just throw it out randomly, I don't have a boat, a fishfinder, etc. I learn the layout by what I can see and what I can "feel" with my lure. So sometimes it looks like I'm "flogging" the water, but when I know what's there then the precision starts. I have no doubt it takes skill and precision to cast a fly and place where you want it, drift it, set the hook, land the fish, but I would argue that casting a lure to a particular spot, just between those branches over there, without getting a backlash and working the lure back in the right way to catch the bass that's most likely hiding there takes a considerable amount of skill too. Nothing against bait fisherman here (I've certainly been guilty of looking down my nose at them before), but we all like to feel good about ourselves by glorifying our particular method or style. It's who we are as people, we have pride and like to think that we're better or at least as good as most of the people around us. Tell me this, when you want to introduce a kid to fishing, are you really going to try and start them on a fly!? Or are you going to take them down to the water and drown a few worms so they can catch some fish? Maybe it is "the highest angling art form" but art is in the eye of the beholder and I'd much rather see a kid excited about catching a fish than some conceited ass telling me my type of fishing isn't good enough.

Koldkut

Levi,

All forms of fishing are good enough, its about the fish, no doubt. And there are some fly guys who are conceited, and others who don't really care what your doing as long as you are catching fish. It's all art, and the eye of this beholder, fly-fishing is the highest form for me. Don't get me wrong, I still spin fish and dunk bait my fair share, and I'll be the first guy to start handing out flies to other folks, even the worm and bobber guys, when the fish aren't taking bait and they are into the flies. Seeing the smile on a kids face when the fishin's hot, always puts a smile on my face regardless of how they are catching them.

John

Sorry for the snarky response, but flyfishing's nasty little dark side is that we still have people who think it is the highest angling art form. Fishing is fishing. I prefer to do it with a fly rod, some other guy prefers to do it with a spinning rod. We're one and the same. Let protecting the resource justify our existence, not our egos.

Evan V

Fly fishing, more of a lifestyle than a sport. Chasing what is hard to obtain, but not impossible. A perfect blend of entomology, zoology, and angling skill with the ability to turn the smartest astrophysicist into a trout bum in the time it takes to tie a fly, cast it, and retrieve it with a fish attached to it.

Mike

Flyfishing for trout, far from others, is escape. No one else around to impress or criticize. One's skill against the fish, its environment, and whatever else might be trolling the water and shores. Senses are heightened. Focus is absolute. Read the water, the skies, and the wind; observe the insects and active hatches; stalk the fish; present the fly; mend the line; set the hook; and play the fish in; while stealthily treading a slimy stream bottom where one could slip and be wisked under a sweeper or into a deep hole; all while mindful of those footfalls or movements along the shores. All the world's stresses just go out of mind and out of body - finally wade out of the stream tired but mentally refreshed.

Fat Guy Alex

Not at all, Mr. Creosote. That retard would definitely have to practice... baitcasters can be a pain in the butt to cast proficiently.

Sue B

An artist doesn't build a masterpiece overnight. Art is a lifelong pursuit that is a personal journey. An artist strives to learn and grow from his mistakes and improve his craft through hours of practice. A spontaneous brushstroke or a single line placed in just the right spot might turn out to be an artist's greatest work. In the end, it's his collective experiences that bring the artist closer to perfection and make the journey fun. Fly fishing, like art, is a craft that is ever changing, ever evolving, and ever growing. For the beginner the challenge may be a simple knot or to land a dozen clean casts before the eminent tangle. As the angler advances her craft, it may be the number of fish caught or, later, the size of the fish caught. Everyday there's a new scenario to tackle: match the hatch, rig the rod, read the current, find where the fish are feeding, and make the perfect drift. I am never bored fly fishing. Just when I think I've got it all figured out, nature throws a curve ball my way, just to humble me and remind me I still have a lifetime of learning ahead. Fly fishing is a physical, mental, and spiritual journey. When everything flows just right, the composition is like the most beautiful painting I've ever seen.

BTW, I've always wanted to float the Gunnison Gorge.

joey

fly fishing is a higher art form because it's more expensive.

joey

does any body here realize how ga*y they are reveling in this pathetic post, trying to win some ridiculous online popularity contest, self-aggrandizing, self-important bull scheist. YOU FLY FISH, SO f'n WHAT!!

Fat Guy Alex

So what?.....So Lets Dance!

TVN

I think back to the days of tweed, tobacco pipes, hand-snelled hooks and creels packed with fish. In the early days of the sport, the pursuit was the same as any angling - bring home something for the dinner plate, and enjoy yourself as you do it. Since then, and since 'the movie,' things have changed. Many folks do it for the pursuit, many for the artistic side. Somehow, since we've stopped keeping the fish, the attitude has gone up, but the art has not followed. Sure, there's inlaid reel seats, full dress salmon flies and nickel reels, but has the technique and enjoyment followed? I think not. So if fly-fishing is the most artistic form of fishing, it's because of its founders, not the current practitioners.

KD

Joey wins! Just so I have an excuse to get him down in the Canyon... But will he come back out? I think the next post will be like the "Larry the Lobster" SNL contest: Should Joey come out of the Black Canyon or not.

Just kidding, of course.

We'll let this ride a few more days... see if we can't smoke out a few more po'd knuckle-draggers, then make a call after Turkey day.

I don't know what's more fun, teasing and hooking fish with flies, or teasing and hooking baitwhackers with words.




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